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Wan Shi Tong
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Post subject: Re: Dragon, Dwemerlaik, Orcs... Help Please!
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:01 pm
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Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:39 pm Posts: 967 Location: The Old Dominion
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Okay questions. What points level are you two playing at? Are you willing to try allying in some help from say the elves or the wizards? which dwarves are you playing new or old? What is the dragon outfitted with?
Off the top of my head I'd say try the Loremaster, whose name escapes me, so you can remove the Dwemerlaik's might sapping special rule. That way you can use a hero to win against the dragon, kill it with piercing strike then turn on the orcs and Dwemerlaik.
You could also try a siege weapon to use against either the dragon or the orc hoard. You won't get to many shots and you'll be giving your enemy the run of the board but it kills regardless of wound count. It has some useful upgrades as well and can be used to disrupted the orcs as the come toward you. It could work if you used a engineer captain but it could just get stepped on by the dragon before you get two shots off so its hard to say.
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theavenger001
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Post subject: Re: Dragon, Dwemerlaik, Orcs... Help Please!
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:40 pm
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Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:03 pm Posts: 1984 Location: Manitoba, Canada Images: 1
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Definitely going to need to know what points you are playing at and a rough outline of his army. Also, are you playing different scenarios, or just deathmatch style kill the enemy games? Floi could be helpful for removing a special rule. Thinking you're probably running about 750 points, and he's getting about 40 guys....you could counter with the following:
balin w/ axe gimli floi shieldbearer
24 dwarf w/ shield 16 dwarf w/ bow 8 khazad guard
You've got ~10 more guys, better bow fire, heroes to chew through his orcs, floi can stop the dragon or dwimmer, and the khazad + a hero can go dwimmer hunting. Assuming you take out the dwimmer/nullify his might rule, you also have a lot more might to throw around.
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Gshaw
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Post subject: Re: Dragon, Dwemerlaik, Orcs... Help Please!
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:15 pm
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Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:20 pm Posts: 99
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Cheers for the quick responses, and in terms of games we tend to play anywhere between 750-1,500pts which is quite a large range. Generally the army consists of a dragon with fly and tough hide, and a band of orcs, the dwemerlaik and a band of orcs and then miscellaneous shamans, taskmasters and captains with warbands. Nearer the bottom end (750pts) the dragon is less likely to appear but then there's usually another nazgul to contend with, and more orcs -.-
In terms of dwarves i've tried a multiple armies including new dwarves or old dwarves and sometimes a mix of the two. I've also previously allied in some galadhrim with old thranduil or in the larger pts matches I bring saruman in for support, I'm not against allying anything in so long as I can loosely justify it lore wise.
Also a question to consider, which game type do you think would be best suited for my army or alternatively worst suited for his? Currently we tend to play either to the death or hold ground as they tend to be most popular with our group.
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theavenger001
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Post subject: Re: Dragon, Dwemerlaik, Orcs... Help Please!
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:57 pm
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Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:03 pm Posts: 1984 Location: Manitoba, Canada Images: 1
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In my mind only having three full warbands of troops at 900 points is too few. For the first list I'd drop galadriel and add some more guys.
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Galanur
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Post subject: Re: Dragon, Dwemerlaik, Orcs... Help Please!
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:35 pm
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am Posts: 1389
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One advice I give you when facing a dragon, dragon´s are known for 3 things in abundance, Strength, cunning and greed, do not underestimate neither of those.
What configuration he uses on the dragon? it really depends on how hes equipped.
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Gshaw
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Post subject: Re: Dragon, Dwemerlaik, Orcs... Help Please!
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:09 pm
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Kinsman |
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Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:20 pm Posts: 99
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So me and my buddy won this round cheers guys!!! It was a very close call, the game type rolled was lords of battle which worked very well for us due to our lower model count. It was very much a back and forth battle with each side suffering some horrendous rounds of combat. Saruman was basically a huge dragon block all game, but given that the dragon only killed about two iron guard I felt these were pts well spent, his terrifying aura even prevented the dragon from charging him twice which was extremely useful. Galadriel's Fortify spirit was extremely useful for deterring the wraiths from casting against the more powerful heroes but her Banishment spell didn't really accomplish anything other than draining a few will pts, but either way she reduced the effectiveness of the two wraiths that appeared so pts well spent. I included a warband of iron guard and one of khazad guard and both performed extremely well at both weathering attacks from the numerous orcs and dishing out some damage. Thorin sadly only managed to kill one orc all game, despite having all equipment options bar his bow... Thankfully the game ended on the same turn that both of us were broken and the final score rested at 51-64, a Victory to the Dwarves!!!
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Gshaw
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Post subject: Re: Dragon, Dwemerlaik, Orcs... Help Please!
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:03 am
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Kinsman |
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Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:20 pm Posts: 99
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The Final Army List was: Thorin (Orcrist, Oakenshield, Pony), 12 warriors or erebor Dwalin (Pony) 12 warriors of dale (didn't have two sets of erebor dwarves sadly) Balin (old, Durin's Axe) 12 Iron Guard Dwarf Capt (Shield) 11 Khazad Guard, 1 Dwarf warrior Banner Dwarf Capt (Shield) 12 Dwarf Warriors with Shield Dwarf Capt (Shield) 8 Dwarf Warriors with Shield Then it was Galadriel and Saruman from the BOFA Source
and Galadriel did perform just not in all areas, for example she did prevent the wraiths from neutralising my best heroes but they had enough will to resist her banish spell so it only really soaked up a few of their will points and then in the last two turns of desperate fighting she joined the dwarven ranks and failed to wound in the first fight and lost two fate in the second...
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