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 Post subject: Cave Troll Girdles
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:25 pm 
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...meaning the belts that hold up their pants... Who puts them on? They've got wee little buckles around back and the trolls have flipping great fingers!

Just trying to paint some of these and the thought came to me... Why keep something like that to myself?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:42 pm 
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Haha. Hadn't thought of that. I'm assuming it's whatever goblin is currently on Durburz's bad list for the week!

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It used to be Ashrak. Which explains his "broken mind" in his back-story lol

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The reason why blackshields have such heavy armour and parts of their cloaks are brown...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:21 am 
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Interesting thought! :-D

Let me bore you with an explanation. I would assume they are outfitted in the same way we see the orcs dressing the Uruks in Isengard during a scene in FOTR. I think it could even be Lurtz rather than a generic Uruk. Obviously, trolls are a little more feral and mindless than Uruks, so the orcs would need to find some way to restrain them before suiting them up. Luckily, we also have visual evidence for that, in TTT when Sam and Frodo first come to the Black Gate, the trolls are whipped by orcs while they wrench open the huge doors to let the Easterlings pass through. So, with some restraint, the orcs would probably be able to fasten any buttons and buckles, possibly even apply a small amount of mascara before they unleash the beasts into Middle-earth. I'm going by the films because obviously its those that GW used to sculpt their miniatures.

I suppose you could even argue that the trolls might view themselves as equal to orcs, despite their seemingly brainless nature. In Moria, not once does the cave troll question whether he should be killing the goblins or the Fellowship, so clearly he is allied with the goblins. Therefore, the trolls might simply let the orcs dress them?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:38 am 
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Kinda like people putting sweaters on their dogs...

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Now my question...

Are Orcs / Golins so modest that they CARE if their Trolls are covered up properly? I can understand the Hill Trolls as shown in the Hobbit. They're 'civilized' and care at least slightly about such things. But the brutish Cave Trolls as portrayed in the films? I doubt they care personally. And I really can't see the Goblins having a care unless they just were embarrassed in comparison or such. Now if the covering served some defensive purpose like a metal cup I think it would have been far more acceptable than to place some degree of vanity to these creatures.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:12 pm 
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I think the movie might have had an 18+ age restriction if there wasn't something to cover the troll's private parts.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:15 am 
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Well, Beowulf03809, and bare with me on this one. I've always thought the orcs were slightly sado-masochistic, not in a sexual sense but in the sense that they enjoy pain. Most have bizarre piercings and self-inflicted wounds, often to display their leadership and dominance. Their armour is also made of either bone or metal molded in a sharp and serrated fashion, definitely capable of injuring the wearer. Now, as I said, bare with me... could the leather straps worn by trolls be some sort of echo of this, in that the trolls are being painfully restricted by the orcs against their own will? :?

That, or, as Hill-Troll said, so that Peter Jackson avoided certification troubles.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:56 am 
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that explains half trolls...

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