Harad & Umbar

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:31 pm

I'm slowly building a Fallen Realms army, not got the Golden King yet, is he really worth the points at 750 points level games?

cereal_theif · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:47 pm

Yes, especially if you have a taskmaster
As evil you expect your opponent to break first.
Now imagine you make his heroes run away... suddenly he isnt quite so super

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:03 pm

So a task master is a must then?

cereal_theif · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:07 pm

For sure!
Cheap and gives your other heroes a chance to do more

BlackMist · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:13 am

Betrayer is amazing on a fell beast because you get to stay with archers for a while and if you need him in combat he's there within a turn. With his rerolls he's a flying spider queen. Without a fell beast there are about 520 better choices though.

I'd say therr are two ways to play harad these days:
A) Golden King with Abrakhan / watcher / harad spearmen with 50% bows and perhaps 2-3 serpents
B) Reavers!

Half trolls are definitely good, but they are effectively an upgrade to reavers, so it depends how much you're spending on heroes and what metagame you expect. I tend to go with reavers and 2-3RW on FB, but HT are just as viable.

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:45 pm

How many half trolls would you field in 750 games? Thay are not cheap, and will eat into your 750 points very quickly! Also, are the Reavers really that good? Apart from having 2 attacks, the rest of there stats look average at best. x

whafrog · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:38 pm

NotLegolasJustTipsy wrote:

Also, are the Reavers really that good? Apart from having 2 attacks, the rest of there stats look average at best. x

You must have missed the "just as good as an elf" Fight score

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:17 pm

whafrog wrote:

NotLegolasJustTipsy wrote:

Also, are the Reavers really that good? Apart from having 2 attacks, the rest of there stats look average at best. x

You must have missed the "just as good as an elf" Fight score

Yes but people always say that what's the point in wining if once you have won you inflict no damage? Aka strength 3

cereal_theif · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:19 pm

But if you dont win the fight you can die...

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:11 pm

cereal_theif wrote:

But if you dont win the fight you can die...

Good point. I got no come back :oops:

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:11 pm

Other than they are expensive

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:14 pm

The problem is that my opponent plays lots of minis Tirith soldiers. Nice and cheap with high defence. Also he tends to play the cheap heroes, so I need to use some cheap guys as well so as not to get over run, and the Reavers are not cheap are they? What Harad and Umbar army would you field against a Minis Tirith army like I said? x

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:33 pm

abrakhan fat boys and watchers of karna.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:38 pm

And a Mumak if you are at a high enough point level. 750 is about the minimum for one, but at around 1000 I would definitely take one. I play against dwarves alot and a mumak can kill a HUGE amount every turn. It was made to kill heavily armored shield walls, like dwarf and Minas Tirith armies.

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:39 pm

SouthernDunedain wrote:

abrakhan fat boys and watchers of karna.

How many? Would you give watchers bows? Or get them stuck in with the fighting?

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:41 pm

as many as you feel nessecary and can field without proxying

maybe shoot with the karna for a turn but then get them stuck in, those 2 attacks come in handy.

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:41 pm

Draugluin wrote:

And a Mumak if you are at a high enough point level. 750 is about the minimum for one, but at around 1000 I would definitely take one. I play against dwarves alot and a mumak can kill a HUGE amount every turn. It was made to kill heavily armored shield walls, like dwarf and Minas Tirith armies.

Tend to play 750 really. There are always 3 of us playing, winner stays on. I have never stayed on :sad:

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:43 pm

SouthernDunedain wrote:

as many as you feel nessecary and can field without proxying

maybe shoot with the karna for a turn but then get them stuck in, those 2 attacks come in handy.

At the moment I have 12 watchers and 24 Abrakhan Guards. So what else would you play?and what heroes?

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:46 pm

that'd be plenty. golden king, taskmaster, Dalamyr, betrayer maybe. once that army gets into combat it'll chop its way through anything.

NotLegolasJustTipsy · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:49 pm

SouthernDunedain wrote:

that'd be plenty. golden king, taskmaster, Dalamyr, betrayer maybe. once that army gets into combat it'll chop its way through anything.

What order would you place the heroes? I have every Wraith, Suladan, Hasharin, Golden King, Dalamyr and Taskmaster?

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