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 Post subject: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:56 pm 
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Hi there everyone, Im going to face my friend very soon in a battle, but he is using Radagast with elves and Im starting to become paranoid about him.
Do you guys know any way to take him out fast? (I play as hunter orcs)

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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:59 pm 
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Why are you paranoid? He is more a support wizard, unless you have lots of cavalry...in which case you are stuffed. Get someone like Bolg into combat with him and hope for the best. If your opponent is any good, Radagast will be safe behind his elves making best use of his elvish cloak and bird.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:34 am 
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Don;t ley your overpointed mounted Hunter Orcs naywhere near Radagast, keep a swarm of infantry around him to limit the damage. Shoot at him too of you have the arrows. Bolg is a great idea once you have killed enough Elf Warriors.

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Alright thanks for the fast answers everyone!

@SoutherDunedain the reason Im paranoid was because I saw a game when my opponent stuck Radagast in the middle of 2 ringwraiths on fellbeasts and 12 orc warg riders... he killed them all.So thats why Im paranoid.

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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:38 am 
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@SoutherDunedain the reason Im paranoid was because I saw a game when my opponent stuck Radagast in the middle of 2 ringwraiths on fellbeasts and 12 orc warg riders... he killed them all.So thats why Im paranoid.


How does a 1 attack model do this? If this legitimately happened then he must have had insane dice rolls, and been very lucky at priority. Either way, it's no reason to be scared of him. He is a support wizard, Witch King is a nice counter to him, but don't mount him on a fell beast, it is too risky. Shades+numbers is the best thing i can think of when it comes to killing elves, they suffer massively from the reduced duel rolls.
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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:38 am 
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I would assume that Radagast channeled his spells. Channeling 1 spell could probably take out a chunk of warg riders and a fell beast in one turn.

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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:24 am 
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Doesn't he have natures wrath, which dismounts any mounted mounted models, and then, I gues they all rolled a 1 on the fallen rider chart and died?
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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:52 am 
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Doesn't he have natures wrath, which dismounts any mounted mounted models, and then, I guess they all rolled a 1 on the fallen rider chart and died?


Nope, I wish he had nature's wrath though :( , it's perfectly thematic. But he has Panic Steed, which if he was extremely lucky may account for the massacre.
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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:33 am 
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Oh sorry I must have been thinking of that.
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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
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I'm with SuicidalMarsbar, there's just no way Radagast could do that. Sounds like Thecow's opponent thinks Radagast has powers he doesn't.
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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:01 pm 
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I'll agree, there's no way radagast could survive being attacked like that. Get three goons on him and he's in trouble let alone what has been described. Unless someone is adding spells to him - you and your opponent better check the sourcebook!

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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:46 pm 
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Actually if Radagast on sleigh charged 2 fellbeasts.
Did a heroic strike.
He has 4 attacks from the sleigh and 1 from sebastian.
So potentially he could get lucky and cause a few wounds.

OR If he cast Panic steed on the warg riders channelled so dismounting the wraiths. Then charge in and then the sleigh mount is a winner.
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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:30 am 
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OP didn't mention radagast's sled, but even so, two fellbeasts and 12 mounted orcs should make short work of him. Two nazgul and 12 dismounted orcs should kill him without too much stress. Even tightly bunched together I doubt all the mounts could go in one cast given that he was in the middle of them all.

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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:39 pm 
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Or, that was his total kill count in the battle, with his other troops guarding him. IDK.

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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:32 pm 
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Isnt panic steed Channeled an AOE spell? Looks like the other player just waltzed up and pulled the panic steed spell.
BTW rules as written I have not seen a rule that specifically states riders are dismounted if their mount is knocked prone. I think the spell might mention it, but the basic rules do not. Have you noticed this?
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 Post subject: Re: Radagast the brown
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:19 pm 
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Panic steed says it knocked the rider off the mount.

Currently other things that knock over mounted models DO NOT cause a dismount situation in the RAW
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