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 Post subject: Thorin?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:08 am 
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I was wondering as a dwarfplayer why every army list of the dwarves has Thorin in it. I don't have the hobbit rulebook yet (my local gwshop is rebuilding) so I would really appreciate it if you guys could tell me if he is op or if he is just in every army list because he is new.
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 Post subject: Re: Thorin?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:16 am 
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he's in the erebor army list, a new army list. with normal dwarves (witch have the option to take spears)

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 Post subject: Re: Thorin?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:06 pm 
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He has Orcrist. Which kicks ass.
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 Post subject: Re: Thorin?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:08 pm 
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From his rules he's not particularly op, the fact he can't take a decent mount (unless they've changed the way ponies work, haven't thought to check) holds him back a bit.

Possible reasons to take him though:
He had a similar stat line to Imrahil with a couple of cool special rules for fewer points.

Orcist and the Oakenshield are good in or out of a fight.

He's in the new starter set so everyone has him

He's a pretty pretty model

He lets you take dwarf warriors with spears.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:37 pm 
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There's one other important reason:

Because the Goblin King is that damned good.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:13 pm 
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Hmm what do you exactly mean can you explain a bit more?
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 Post subject: Re: Thorin?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:28 pm 
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Thor wrote:
@JPRoth1980
Hmm what do you exactly mean can you explain a bit more?


I think he means that because many perceive the Goblin King to be OP in alot of ways, having Thorin carrying orcrist helps because of the Goblin King's vulnerabilities to such named weapons.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:33 pm 
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Thor wrote:
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Hmm what do you exactly mean can you explain a bit more?


Without getting into actual rules here, the Goblin King is a remarkably good value for the points cost and will likely find his way into a large number of Evil lists--I know I am sorely tempted to take him with my Hunter Orcs--and has a rather powerful defensive special rule on top of all the advantages of being a relatively inexpensive Heroic Monster.

The king's special rule, however, is canceled out by three weapons. One of them can be carried by Thorin, who provides the best bang for the buck in terms of combat potential. And Thorin with said weapon and his shield costs slightly less than the Goblin King, so if you expect the big fat goblin to start popping up Spider-Queen-Like, you're well-advised to take Thorin as a matter of course.
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