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 Post subject: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:04 am 
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Ok. I'm doing Bilbo's Birthday Bash in November and am trying to finish out my list decision making for that weekend. There is a bonus for themed Good/Evil forces. My theme is the Corsairs of Umbar raiding the Fiefdoms with all the living fiefdoms groups being involved.

Evil: This is set in stone. It's a good functional force

Warband 1: Dalamyr: 100
Followers 1: 2 Corsair Reavers 20, 3 Corsairs w Shield 24, 5 Corsairs w Spears 40

Warband 2: Corsair Captain w 2HW 55
Followers 2: 2 Corsair Reavers 20, 3 Corsairs w Shield 24, 5 Corsairs w Spears 40

Warband 3: Corsair Captain w Xbow 55
Followers 3: 9 Corsair Arbalesters 90

Warband 4: Corsair Bosun w Spear 46
Followers 4: 2 Corsair Reavers 20, 3 Corsairs w Shield 24, 5 Corsairs w Spears 40

Good: Fiefdoms. The main theme here is that each named character only has models from his own fiefdom in his warband.

Good: I have 2 different ideas for this.

Idea 1:

Warband 1: Imrahil: 135
Followers 1: 5 Knights of Dol Amroth 45, 6 Men at Arms w Pikes 54

Warband 2: Forlong the Fat 60
8 Axemen of Lossanarch 72

Warband 3: Angbor the Fearless: 55
6 Clansmen of Lamedon 48

Warband 4: Duinhir 65
8 Blackroot Vale Archers 64

Idea 2: The change is to give a little mounted punch to the force.

Warband 1: Imrahil: 135
Followers 1: 4 Foot Knights of Dol Amroth 36, 4 Men at Arms w Pikes 36, 3 Mounted Knights of Dol Amroth 57,

Warband 2: Forlong the Fat 60
6 Axemen of Lossanarch 54

Warband 3: Angbor the Fearless: 55
5 Clansmen of Lamedon 40

Warband 4: Duinhir 65
7 Blackroot Vale Archers 56

Opinions of the two good list ideas?
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 Post subject: Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:13 am 
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I'd say drop Angbor and the clansmen for anything, they're worthless.

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 Post subject: Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:19 am 
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Doesn't fit the theme here. The theme behind the good force is that Imrahil rallied the forces of the 4 fiedoms (Dol Amroth, Lossanarch, Lamedon and the Blackroot Vale) to repel the Corsairs. I know that Angbor and the Clansmen are unoptimal here but that would be unfluffy to lose them.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:24 pm 
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what makes the Clansmen bad I always thought they were quite good
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:10 pm 
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ElfGeneral wrote:
what makes the Clansmen bad I always thought they were quite good

They're not directly bad, but 8 points is not good for F4 S3 D4 only hand and two-handed, and their banner effect only works if they are close to Angbor, who is a mediocre Hero.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:13 pm 
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Elessar Telcontar wrote:
ElfGeneral wrote:
what makes the Clansmen bad I always thought they were quite good

They're not directly bad, but 8 points is not good for F4 S3 D4 only hand and two-handed, and their banner effect only works if they are close to Angbor, who is a mediocre Hero.


Ok so not bad but not good either
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:18 am 
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I really like your Corsair list, but I'm not sure about the other one.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:12 am 
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Well, been thinking about things and done some tweaking of the good list.

Warband 1: Imrahil on foot: 125
4 Knights of Dol Amroth: 36
5 Men at Arms of Dol Amroth w pikes: 45

Warband 2: Captain of Dol Amroth Mounted w Lance: 75
3 Mounted Knights of Dol Amroth w Lance: 57

Warband 3: Forlong the Fat: 60
7 Axemen of Lossanarch: 63

Warband 4: Dunihir: 65
8 Blackroot Vale Archers: 64

600/600 points
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 Post subject: Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces
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It's a neat theme idea, but I'm not sure the profiles will support it. I think you'll have trouble with this, mainly not enough numbers. Also, Blackroot Vale archers are next to useless for the price imho, they're really only scenario material.

None of your warbands is maxed. You could probably drop the captain of DA if you shuffled things around, and end up with more troops in each warband.

Lastly, the potential of Imrahil is going to waste. His banner effect covers a huge area, it's almost a shame not to fill it.
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