Times of old.

Gharnukk · **Joined:** Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:30 pm **Posts:** 26

Since Eärnur was doing an attack with cavalry.
Im thinking that I maybe should use Knights of
Minas Tirith and then a Mounted Isildur as Eärnur...
Do we know if the Warriors of Númenor or Minas
Tirith are most correct for the time of Battle of
Fornost (Judging by the looks).

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:52 pm

I think the issue was WD300.

GW uses WoMT in most, if not all, of their versions of the Battle of Fornost, but I think there may be one version in which Anor Warriors were supported by Numenoreans, but that might just be Gladden Fields and the battle that pre-dated it.

Lord Hurin · **Posted:** Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:18 pm

Could you post it here, Gothmog? I'm not sure it would be a problem, as the rules are certainly neither official nor are they available anymore (unless you happen upon a 7-year old back issue.) I'm interested to see what WD had in mind for him. I have issue 305, in which they printed rules for Anarion, Isildur's brother. His profile was that of Faramir with heavy armour and a shield and 1 less Will and Fate. He had a special rule that boosted his Courage by 2 when charging a Terror-causing enemy, all for an extremely overpriced 100pts.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:49 pm

Ok, here it is:

65pts Earnur Captain of the white tower F5/- S4 D6 A2 W2 C6 Mt3/W2/F1

Can have a horse at additional cost of 10 points
Fools rush in - Whenever Earnur moves IF he is able to charge an enemy hero he MUST do.

Lord Hurin · **Posted:** Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:54 pm

That's pretty horrid. Earnur was "more like a champion than a Captain or King" sort of like Boromir was. A mightier profile is what I had in mind for him, very much like Isildur's. Low Will and middling Fate, but good Attacks and Might.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:01 pm

Aye, he does have a weak profile, hence I suggested a generic King if Men as an alternative. From what I know of Earnur, he didn't sound uber-powerful, but I think he should've been better than GW did him. At the time though, he wasn't as weak as this was before most of the uber-profiles.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:12 am

I would say that Anarion should have Isildur's profile (he was his brother after all) except trading a point of fate for a point of will (he did die, yet wasn't seduced). Earnur should definitely be an uber-hero, with the Fools Rush in rule.

Gharnukk · **Joined:** Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:30 pm **Posts:** 26

Thanks guys

That was a pretty weak statline.
Not att all what I had i mind. Then i will buy
some men of Minas Tirith and Isildur

This
project keep getting bigger

Valamir · **Posted:** Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:00 pm

Yeah... the old Earnur was a very... poor profile. To be nice.

@Gothmog- no he wasn't as weak, comparatively speaking, but he still wouldn't want to meet up with even an uruk-hai captain who had a nazgul watching over him. Though that was quite some time ago, wasn't it?

Ah, how the years do roll onward...

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:33 am

@Valamir, that was some time ago, things do change. He should arguably lose to Nazgul due his 'circumstances' though, but only through magic, like a boromir type thing, though long long ago he wasn't too bad, though, in them, days several hundred goblins was a legal 1000pt army.

Valamir · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:53 am

@Gothmog- How right you are, on all points. Well spoken!

And yes, friends and I did consider the merits of bringing one goblin captain and hiding him at the back of 193 of his fellows as a 1000 point army.

But, to get back to the topic on hand, a profile closer to Isildur would do much better, methinks.

Gharnukk · **Joined:** Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:30 pm **Posts:** 26

Isildur defeated Sauron. Eärnur fell (probably) when fighting
the Witch king who most likely cheated!

But he still deserve
better stats.

Valamir · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:25 pm

Agreed. Though, quite frankly, the Witch-king with the Crown of Morgul is more than a match for most good heroes- providing that Boromir is beating on the crown in the first turn.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:30 pm

Gharnukk wrote:

Isildur defeated Sauron. LUCK Eärnur fell (probably) when fighting
the Witch king who most likely cheated!

But he still deserve Like you said, the WK probably cheated.
better stats.

Valamir · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:49 pm

Though the fact that none of Earnur's guards made it back to Gondor points at some kind of treachery, though, who knows, the Witch-king might have taken him on. And then called for backup if he started losing.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:50 pm

Earnur didn't take any guards.

Valamir · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:26 pm

No? I don't recall Tolkien stating one way or the other.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:38 pm

In my opinion, the Witch-king cheated, why would he fight fair when he could fight dirty. He has no morals or regard for code of honour.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:40 pm

Earnur was mentioned as riding out alone.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:41 pm

I think Draugluin is correct, did the Witch-king not ask him to go in alone

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