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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:16 am 
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I'm pretty open to things. If I believe that it could have been done by that culture then I am willing to appreciate it. It dosn't mean I accept anything but if i dont like it then i simply wont buy it.
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I'm deeply disappointed in their latest acts.
I like the new models (well, most of them), but the fact that they release a command box of 4 figures, of which in most cases are the three figures of the command boxes they released two years ago and just one new figure gives a collector like myself the only possible way to keep a collection complete to buy the entire boxes or hope to find the spare mini's on ebay. I visited the GW-store in Antwerp a week ago to see if I could be tempted.
I'm so mad at them for this that I've put an abrupt end on collecting the LOTR-range any further. I'm not spending a £100 on command-boxes for only 4 or 5 figures I don't have yet. They've turned their back to the collectors... now I do the same to them.

(in my madness I just spend around £400 on stuff from other companies... :S )

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I'm deeply disappointed in their latest acts.
I like the new models (well, most of them), but the fact that they release a command box of 4 figures, of which in most cases are the three figures of the command boxes they released two years ago and just one new figure gives a collector like myself the only possible way to keep a collection complete to buy the entire boxes or hope to find the spare mini's on ebay. I visited the GW-store in Antwerp a week ago to see if I could be tempted.
I'm so mad at them for this that I've put an abrupt end on collecting the LOTR-range any further. I'm not spending a £100 on command-boxes for only 4 or 5 figures I don't have yet. They've turned their back to the collectors... now I do the same to them.

(in my madness I just spend around £400 on stuff from other companies... :S )

You could paint the duplicates and sell them on ebay - with your standard of painting they'd make a tidy profit and enable you to spend another £400 on other companies miniatures :)

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Scarpeiron - Hello, I don't think we have 'met', as it were, as I have been quite reclusive for some years, but thanks to you and the Buckland Brewer for your comments because it restores my faith that the power of Mordor hasn't yet corrupted everyone!

Because I have so lost interest in GW for so long, I haven't kept up and obviously missed Shatter the Shaman and his Goblin Blackshields. I have to say, the bogus and obviously scatalogical name is simply hilarious. What are these amazing powers? Does he conjuor forth a fatal miasma of faltulence of or just bury his victims in flesh-eating fecal matter? (Maybe I just retain the sense of humour of an 11-year old). Possibly they could counter him with another entirely New-to-Tolkien Hero, Andrex, the War-Puppy of Erebor whose powers are ... absorbent.
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That Shaman is about as Tolkien-esque as the Haldir of the movies, or Denethor, Faramir (TTT one) and so on and so forth. I admit, he is very much overpowered, but the Blackshields themselves make perfect sense, they represent the Uruk-hai that Boromir saw while in Balin's Tomb.

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I've had some troubles with GW's way of doing things for a while now, too. It seems that they've injected Warhammer and WH40K's philosophy of "humans are weak and get slaughtered by the cool monsters" into LoTR. Gulavhar, this new Dweller and many more made up beasts are making it difficult for Good to keep up. Superhuman Mahud (to make them sell better), Hero-neutering Nazgul, Trolls more skilled than most Elves (or ANY Man or Dwarf) and a slew of other Evil models that make things look very bleak for the Free Peoples just make me feel a little bitter towards the game in general.

My favourite match-up is still the classic Dwarves vs Goblins. The Goblins are inferior in every way, but there's LOTS OF THEM. It makes for an exciting game, in my opinion.

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The Mahud are NOT 'supermen' any more, they are dreadful in new rules.

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Lord Hurin wrote:
I've had some troubles with GW's way of doing things for a while now, too. It seems that they've injected Warhammer and WH40K's philosophy of "humans are weak and get slaughtered by the cool monsters" into LoTR... just make me feel a little bitter towards the game in general.


I wouldn't say it makes me bitter, just disappointed they can't keep their adolescent excitement in their pants. Gondor and Numenor are completely nerfed compared to the options available to their opponents...if you want to get that Tolkien Gondor feel, the closest you can get is all-fiefdoms, none of which have S4 like their opponents.
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The Mahud are NOT 'supermen' any more, they are dreadful in new rules.


No, they're average from what I've heard. To me this makes sense, but after the Khandish warriors I think GW realized that they needed a little something extra for people to invest in an all-metal army. They're not strictly in keeping with Tolkien's works, but the "African Tribesman" theme works well enough and doesn't go against what scant descriptions Tolkien made. The best part is, I can easily find proxy models from another manufacturer. I remember someone or other had a range called "Darkest Africa" that was reasonably priced and seemed promising.

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I doubt GW had this in their intentions, but when playing Rohan and noticing how badly outclassed I am by Uruk's it puts me in the same mindset as the movie. I am destined to lose... But I won't let that happen! Even in the books and movies, by all means they should have lost, sevral times over, but they overcame those odds. It pushes me to outmaneuver my opponant and come up with other tactics rather than meeting their shield walls head on. If my only advantage is man's cunning, and my hero's courage, then I will have to exploit it. 8)
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I doubt GW had this in their intentions, but when playing Rohan and noticing how badly outclassed I am by Uruk's it puts me in the same mindset as the movie. I am destined to lose... But I won't let that happen! Even in the books and movies, by all means they should have lost, sevral times over, but they overcame those odds. It pushes me to outmaneuver my opponant and come up with other tactics rather than meeting their shield walls head on. If my only advantage is man's cunning, and my hero's courage, then I will have to exploit it. 8)

Spoken like a true hero 8) :D

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Battalia wrote:
I doubt GW had this in their intentions, but when playing Rohan and noticing how badly outclassed I am by Uruk's it puts me in the same mindset as the movie. I am destined to lose... But I won't let that happen! Even in the books and movies, by all means they should have lost, sevral times over, but they overcame those odds. It pushes me to outmaneuver my opponant and come up with other tactics rather than meeting their shield walls head on. If my only advantage is man's cunning, and my hero's courage, then I will have to exploit it. 8)

Which is just how it should be. Though it would be nice if they won sometimes.

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I managed to nab a few more 24 strong boxes of troops... as if I need them but Hell, why not? It was a bloody good offer.
They can keep the half size boxes...

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I doubt GW had this in their intentions, but when playing Rohan and noticing how badly outclassed I am by Uruk's it puts me in the same mindset as the movie. I am destined to lose... But I won't let that happen! Even in the books and movies, by all means they should have lost, sevral times over, but they overcame those odds. It pushes me to outmaneuver my opponant and come up with other tactics rather than meeting their shield walls head on. If my only advantage is man's cunning, and my hero's courage, then I will have to exploit it. 8)

Spoken like a true hero 8) :D


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I managed to nab a few more 24 strong boxes of troops... as if I need them but Hell, why not? It was a bloody good offer.
They can keep the half size boxes...

:lol: And the backlog increases.......
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Dorthonion wrote:
I managed to nab a few more 24 strong boxes of troops... as if I need them but Hell, why not? It was a bloody good offer.
They can keep the half size boxes...

:lol: And the backlog increases.......


I did the same.

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theavenger001 wrote:
Dorthonion wrote:
I managed to nab a few more 24 strong boxes of troops... as if I need them but Hell, why not? It was a bloody good offer.
They can keep the half size boxes...

:lol: And the backlog increases.......


I did the same.

Except I don't think your backlog is as big as Dorth's...... :rofl:
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GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:
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Dorthonion wrote:
I managed to nab a few more 24 strong boxes of troops... as if I need them but Hell, why not? It was a bloody good offer.
They can keep the half size boxes...

:lol: And the backlog increases.......


I did the same.

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Except I don't think your backlog is as big as Dorth's...... :rofl:


I doubt it, unless Dorth suddenly painted a few hundred models overnight, for the next week.

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Folks, I could hire painters galore and finish 1000 minis... and still have The Backlog from Hell. But I don't care. It will keep me amused for years. And years. And years. And Zzzzzzzzzzzz :)

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