Guthlaf

tirno.alyanorno · **Posted:** Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:50 pm

King Elessar the Uniter wrote:

Gothmog 3rd wrote:

What about giving him the same special rule as Mardin (the Dwarf with spear that comes with Durin) has. This will make him curagious and it will make people keep him close to the king.

Sorry, I don't know anything about this rule - could you explain it please?

its the same as trollbane in WotR

King Elessar the Uniter · **Posted:** Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:43 pm

tirno.alyanorno wrote:

its the same as trollbane in WotR

Sorry, I don't quite understand how +1 against trolls makes him couragious and keeps him close to the king. :oops:

Is it the help he can give to the king against trolls will mean it is a tactical advantage to keep him close and in doing so keeping him in the battle under the king's stand fast?

tirno.alyanorno · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:43 am

oh, yeah, and he is also a bodyguard, but only within 12" of durin

King Elessar the Uniter · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:33 pm

tirno.alyanorno wrote:

oh, yeah, and he is also a bodyguard, but only within 12" of durin

Right, that makes sense now, thanks!

Hallpers · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:24 pm

I think that the rule that he only can be included in the force when Theoden is present should be changed so that he only can be included when any marshal of Rohan (Theoden, Theodred, Eomer) is present, but do as you wish.

King Elessar the Uniter · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:15 am

Yeah, that's a good idea Hallpers!

It'll certainly make him be easier to field.

Phantom_Lord · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:21 am

in that case you should change his bodyguard rule, so it will apply to any member of the royal family :wink:

Hallpers · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:03 pm

Btw, which mini will you use for him? A converted Gamling?

King Elessar the Uniter · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:46 pm

Hallpers wrote:

A converted Gamling?

You got it! :-D

(When I eventually finish my Isengard army I'll crack on with the conversion (both ft. and mt.) and I'll post some pics up in my WIP!). :wink:

Phantom_Lord wrote:

in that case you should change his bodyguard rule, so it will apply to any member of the royal family :wink:

Ok, would you have to choose one of the "royals" for Guthlaf to protect, or as long as one of them is still on the table he will pass all courage tests?

Hallpers · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:05 pm

Since Théoden is the First Marshal of the Riddermark, Théodred is the second, and Éomer is the third, I think that Guthlaf should protect first Théoden, then Théodred, then Éomer, i.e, if Théoden dies, then he protects Théodred etc.
But when I think about it... it's just the same like you said that when one of them is alive, he'll pass all courage tests... :oops:

Hallpers · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:24 pm

King Elessar the Uniter wrote:

Hallpers wrote:

A converted Gamling?

You got it! :-D

(When I eventually finish my Isengard army I'll crack on with the conversion (both ft. and mt.) and I'll post some pics up in my WIP!). :wink:

Maybe you could make an article about it?

Phantom_Lord · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:37 pm

Quote:

Phantom_Lord wrote:
in that case you should change his bodyguard rule, so it will apply to any member of the royal family

Ok, would you have to choose one of the "royals" for Guthlaf to protect, or as long as one of them is still on the table he will pass all courage tests?

id say that before the beginnig of the game you must nominate who he is going to protect. if théoden is on the board, then he must be nominated. if he is not on the board, then theodred must be nominatied, if he is not on the board either then eomer, and if he is not there eowyn. this is just the line of eirs. i.e. if theoden dies, theodred gets the throne. however, if theodred was already dead (as in the film/books) eomer becomes king, etc.

(i dont now if erkenbrand is a member of the royal family, if he is, he must be placed at the end of the list)

this is just how i would do it, but do it as you please :rofl:

Hallpers · **Posted:** Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:44 pm

Phantom_Lord wrote:

(i dont now if erkenbrand is a member of the royal family, if he is, he must be placed at the end of the list)

I don't think he's a member of the royal family, however, he's Lord of the Westfold, and later, Marshal of the Westmark.

King Elessar the Uniter · **Posted:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:47 am

Hallpers wrote:

Maybe you could make an article about it?

Er...

...I need a bit more practice with converting first...but we'll see!

Perhaps we could say that as long as Guthlaf is within x inches of a member of the Royal family, he automatically passes any courage tests?

Hallpers · **Posted:** Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:45 pm

No, I think it should be that as long as anyone of them is on the table, he passes all courage test, since that's how the Bodyguard rule is for everyone else.

King Elessar the Uniter · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:27 pm

Hallpers wrote:

No, I think it should be that as long as anyone of them is on the table, he passes all courage test, since that's how the Bodyguard rule is for everyone else.

Ok, but how will that mean he sticks close to a member of the royal family?

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