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 Post subject: Finding All Miniature Stats
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:15 pm 
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So I have the mines of moria book and the rule book that come with the mines of moria set, but I see that this doesn't contain all miniatures for the Lord Of The Rings series. Does anyone know where I can find an e-book or just a web page with the rest of the stats? I have some miniatures I'm getting that aren't in this book from the Lord Of The Rings series.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:35 pm 
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As far as I know, the only place you can find those stats are in the sourcebooks sold by GW. There is a different book for each group of models, such as moria, the fallen realms (Isengard, the eastern kingdoms), the free peoples, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:49 pm 
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I find it ridiculous that we have all these fantastic models with a watertight rule set and the only place we can find the stats is in books that are out of production.

Careful in this topic guys remember that posting stats or links to illegal download sites is against the forum rules. The great eye is ever watchful.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:41 pm 
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Yeah I would buy a source book from GW but I'd love it if they'd just take all the LoTR Miniatures that they've made and compile them into one book. Or at least make an e-book option available for the source books out of print. Cause I would get it if it were on Kindle or iTunes' books.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:45 am 
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Definitely can't help with getting ahold of the profiles if anyone that needs them wants to send a PM...

I also have updated army builder files if anyone wants them. Units with bows that don't count towards the bow limit, such as mirkwood rangers and riders of Rohan don't interact properly with those that do (they are counted as not having bows rather than not counting towards the bow limit at all.).


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:23 am 
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Asamu wrote:
Definitely can't help with this if anyone wants to send me a PM...

I also have self-updated army builder files if anyone wants them. Units with bows that don't count towards the bow limit, such as mirkwood rangers and riders of Rohan don't interact properly with those that do (they are counted as not having bows rather than not counting towards the bow limit at all.).


Bit confused, why pm you? And there is a thread by LonelyKnight where you can tell him, Galadriel is automatically chosen in my list for some reason

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:47 pm 
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Bit confused, why pm you? And there is a thread by LonelyKnight where you can tell him, Galadriel is automatically chosen in my list for some reason

I mean the Lone Wolf Army Builder, not the Excel program he made.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:45 pm 
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We could always use our LOTR minis to play Song of Blades and Heroes! :)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:12 pm 
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As far as I know there are no out-of-print books other than the old sourcebooks (Khazad'dum, the Two Towers, etc.). They were replaced by the new army books in 2011 (Moria and Angmar, Free Peoples, Mordor, etc.) which was done so as to compile the units into unified armies as opposed to having the individual armies and their units scattered across books, sometimes with possible discrepancies. Sure some units were removed between the transfer from the old supplements to the new army books, though it was mostly those with no models. Otherwise most of the units remain, and with nearly the same stats they used to have, bar some cases (Mahud), and all you need to do is get those books if you want the unit profiles. For those from the Hobbit on, you'll need the big rulebook and the Hobbit supplements. And as of now, none of the books printed 2011 and on are out of print.

Also, by Mines of Moria, I assume you mean the old starter set? If so, the litle rulebook you have is somewhat outdated. While a majority of rules are the same, the relatively new Hobbit rules are a bit changed. Just thought I'd let you know.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:46 pm 
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@Demonforge: The blue lotr sourcebooks from 2012 (Moria & Angmar etc) are slowly going OOP as it appears GW aren't committing to printing any more.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:09 pm 
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You can get the lone wolf demo army builder for free, and you can do anything as long as you have no more than 3 warbands, and you can't save lists, but then you could just take a picture of them with your phone or something (that's how I make my armies (unless I'm in bed or somewhere else, in which case I'll just do it in my head)).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:08 am 
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LordElrond wrote:
You can get the lone wolf demo army builder for free, and you can do anything as long as you have no more than 3 warbands, and you can't save lists, but then you could just take a picture of them with your phone or something (that's how I make my armies (unless I'm in bed or somewhere else, in which case I'll just do it in my head)).

The current file is missing the DoS and BotFA supplements though, and a few of the profiles are messed up (Rivendell Knights have the hunter orc stat line, and there have been a number of profile changes in the Erratas).
I uploaded the updated file here: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fi ... 1908885930

To input the files, unzip the folder to
C:\ProgramData\Army Builder\data and replace the old one.

Units that don't count towards the bow limit instead count towards units that do not have bows, so bow limits in those armies have to be calculated manually. The only missing profile is the new Tauriel, because the old one will generally be taken over it. (For the Erebor Reclaimed army list, you will notice that each model is taken as its own warband. This is because there is nothing in the supplement saying that they are taken as a single warband like there is with the White Council, Thorin's Company, The Trolls, and the Fellowship.)
Don't know if it will work with the trial AB, but it should if you can download their file.

To circumvent the max 3 warband limit with the trial version, you should be able to run multiple instances of the program at once, and make multiple smaller points value armies at the same time, then screenshot, write it down/type it out, or take a picture to save the full list.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:02 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:49 pm 
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SouthernDunedain wrote:
@Demonforge: The blue lotr sourcebooks from 2012 (Moria & Angmar etc) are slowly going OOP as it appears GW aren't committing to printing any more.


Ahhh...didn't know that. I go off of the US sight and so far all of them are still available. Now I just remembered that GW does have a list of all the stats on their website. If you go to Rules Errata, then download Heroes and Villains of Middle Earth I am pretty sure it gives you all the unit stats for all the models up to the ones in the Hobbit rulebook. It does not include the BoFA or DoS profiles though, if I remember correctly. You won't get any unit rules or upgrades or such, but you will have most everyone's stats. You can download the BoFA supplement for free from GW though. All you'd be missing in the DoS profiles by then.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:48 pm 
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Not quite. Sadly the Heroes and Villains of ME PDF, while useful, only covers the stuff from the first Hobbit film. Which is still better than nothing, and fine if you're playing Erebor or Hunter Orcs.

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