Free Empire Company as lake town miltia proxy?

Sticky Fingersss · **Joined:** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:20 am **Posts:** 1776

I stumbled across these guys and apparently the box has a variety of weapons. So if one didn't include all the piratey stuff and guns do you think they would work as laketown militia?

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Empire-Free-Company

J.R. · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:12 am

I do not like them that much, I would advise using civilians and unarmoured warriors from the perry's metal range, they have a large variaty of unarmoured mini's which are super for laketown citizens, you cn use korean unarmoured, crusader etc. together they will look lake a nice band of unarmoured citizens of the multi cultural place laketown is/was.

MY favourites are :

Spear & handweapons

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_33_52&products_id=1784&osCsid=pmdlha9gn9gr5tuio5bcq5hqg0

Archers :

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?products_id=1780&osCsid=pmdlha9gn9gr5tuio5bcq5hqg0

fleeing citizens :

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?products_id=1785&osCsid=pmdlha9gn9gr5tuio5bcq5hqg0

the armed pilrims along with the unarmed ones ( PERFECTfor diaroma & scenarios) You can check out other unarmed warriors, there are quite a few among the asian and mediavel era ranges.

Creaky · **Joined:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:26 pm **Posts:** 424

If your vision of laketown is of a civilisation of giant mutants with swollen limbs, then go for it. As J.R. Says, you're better off, if you dislike the official offering, going for some historicals - plenty of rampaging peasants and ragtag militias to be had in a scale that fots the aesthetic of the range. GW's other games are way too Heroic Scale to do anything but look out of place next to sbg minis.

Eric · **Joined:** Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:58 pm **Posts:** 123

Perry miniatures are exactly way i am going for with lake town in future! Going to get those pilgrims and other crusade related miniatures. They are perfect fit with old lotr metals.

aelfwine · **Joined:** Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:23 am **Posts:** 508

These are excellent suggestions!

I'll certainly think about getting them if I ever decide to make a Battle of Dale collection.

Xintao · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:15 pm

Sticky, I have those and they are huge compared to LOTR figures. Other than that they do make great militia!

J.R. · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:02 pm

Xintao wrote:

Sticky, I have those and they are huge compared to LOTR figures. Other than that they do make great militia!

could you please upload a comparrisson picture I was thinking about ordering them and thougth they would be equal, since 28 mm....
Would like to know what I get

Creaky · **Joined:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:26 pm **Posts:** 424

J.R. wrote:

Xintao wrote:

Sticky, I have those and they are huge compared to LOTR figures. Other than that they do make great militia!

could you please upload a comparison picture I was thinking about ordering them and thought they would be equal, since 28 mm....
Would like to know what I get

I don't have any to compare to myself, but what I can say is there are different kinds of 28mm.

SBG is what's called True Scale - ie, it's all a realistic scale and everything is in proportion to everything else (or at least as much as feasibly possible).

WFB is Heroic Scale - the weapons, heads, limbs and details are all much larger proportionally speaking than they would be. This gives the model a much larger appearance compared to True Scale minis, but means that it's easier to paint in the details.

It's not really possible to convincingly mix them in the same colelction, IMO (with the odd exceptions, obviously, because there's always some exceptions.

)

redeaston · **Posted:** Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:07 am

I was thinking of using gripping beast dark age warriors to be ruffians. I was wondering what to do with the rest of the box but they should do for these guys as well. I have not got them yet but will get some scale photos up once I have.

J.R. · **Posted:** Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:02 pm

Creaky wrote:

J.R. wrote:

Xintao wrote:

Sticky, I have those and they are huge compared to LOTR figures. Other than that they do make great militia!

could you please upload a comparison picture I was thinking about ordering them and thought they would be equal, since 28 mm....
Would like to know what I get

I don't have any to compare to myself, but what I can say is there are different kinds of 28mm.

SBG is what's called True Scale - ie, it's all a realistic scale and everything is in proportion to everything else (or at least as much as feasibly possible).

WFB is Heroic Scale - the weapons, heads, limbs and details are all much larger proportionally speaking than they would be. This gives the model a much larger appearance compared to True Scale minis, but means that it's easier to paint in the details.

It's not really possible to convincingly mix them in the same colelction, IMO (with the odd exceptions, obviously, because there's always some exceptions.

)

oh the confusion, I meant the perry ones I linked :-)

I thought they where huge, But I understand he is talking about the OP free empires minis , As sais before, I would never get those

Creaky · **Joined:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:26 pm **Posts:** 424

Ah, the perry ones ought to be all right. Same sculptors, same scale. Can't see it going wrong - it's not like there's not a degree of variation in scale within the sbg range anyway.

Coenus Scaldingus · **Joined:** Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:14 am **Posts:** 1121

Here some pictures, from left to right:
GW plastic Rohan warrior, Perry metal armoured Arab, GW metal Éowyn, GW plastic Empire Militia.
Perry figures fit straight in.. Warhammer figures not so much.

The Gripping Beast guys are the same size as their Arabs (some seperate arms in both sets are actually identical), which fit in pretty well too:

Creaky wrote:

Ah, the perry ones ought to be all right. Same sculptors, same scale.

The Perry twins used to do Warhammer sculpts too.. don't think the (otherwise majestic, is must be said) WHFB Green Knight is much good in a LotR army because of that though. ;)

Creaky · **Joined:** Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:26 pm **Posts:** 424

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

The Perry twins used to do Warhammer sculpts too.. don't think the (otherwise majestic, is must be said) WHFB Green Knight is much good in a LotR army because of that though.

Hence the 'same scale' comment.

And I do agree about the Green Knight, still one of the best WFB minis.

Sticky Fingersss · **Joined:** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:20 am **Posts:** 1776

Thanks so much for the detailed replies! I didn't realise how different heroric scale was from LOTR's. Those Perry Miniatures look great! Especially the fleeing pilgrims, they really give a sense of refugee.

Sticky Fingersss · **Joined:** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:20 am **Posts:** 1776

Sorry for the double post, but I have found a lot of good proxies:
Thanks guys. I've compiled a list of possible milita proxy models that I think will be far more suitable:

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/produc ... vmp6ial663
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/produc ... o5bcq5hqg0
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/produc ... o5bcq5hqg0
http://www.atomicempire.com/item.aspx?item=81975&
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/produc ... o5bcq5hqg0
http://www.grippingbeast.com/shop.php?p ... 2&CatID=11

redeaston · **Posted:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:29 am

The angry peasants attacking look perfect

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