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 Post subject: Help with making dense forest floor
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:40 am 
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I want to upgrade my woodland difficult terrain to actually make it look difficult to walk through while still being able to move models through it.

I don't like the terrain that has a flat floor with a few trees sticking out of it.
Its not rough enough.

I need help and Ideas as to make a good looking forest floor. I need a lot of things as ground cover like leaves, dirt, twigs, rocks, ferns, small shrubs uneven floor etc.

I also want a good looking coloured dirt that doesn't look like green patches, we all know forests don't have grass growing everywhere. Its more like dirt and mud and dead foliage.

Something to make to woods look dense.

Similar to what Gene Parmesan did.
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Picks and advice is very welcome.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:59 am 
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Well to make an uneven ground, you could use plaster cloth or foam. As for leaves, twigs, stones and rocks, have a look at the scenery on The Army Painter website. They have dense forest brush, vines, coloured leaves, flowers and many other things. You could also look at the Woodlands Scenics website, but that would tend to be more expensive.

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I would just use (large) sand granules with some small, dry twigs; painted in the same way that you paint dirt on your bases. The same material used to make the leaves for the trees in your picture would be ideal for low-level shrubs too.

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Hey, if you're based in the UK or Ireland I used sharp sand from b&q. Glued it down to hardboard. Embedded a few twigs. Painted it in one coat with a watered down dark brown. I went over it with model railway bark chippings then flocked and static grass with various shades. I took step by step pics. I can post them after work tonight. Glad you liked it

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http://www.sceneryexpress.com/DEAD-FALL ... fo/EX896E/

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flora mat
http://www.staples.com/office/supplies/ ... 04623335-2

How to make your own mat from felt.
http://www.ilovetocreate.com/Howtousede ... 9e91b678dd

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Take brown or green felt and pin it down so that it will stay flat when the glue drys. Smear on the Aleene's Flexible Stretchable Fabric glue and add the blended flock. I recommend one of the forest floor blends from the Scenic express link. When the glue drys you will have a flexible forest mat that you can place your trees on. I think they look better than the mats from the flower shop. The overgrown yard, gardens and flower bed in the photo were made this way. The fields were made from door mats.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:12 pm 
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You could try some of Antenocitis Decorplus scatter
http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/ante ... ter-1.html
There's no picture in the store but I believe it is this
http://www.beastsofwar.com/antenocitis- ... p-foliage/

Or Basecrafts seem to have some nice kits
http://basecrafts.com/index.php/basing-kits.html
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Hi OMW,

Where did you get the Hobbit archer on the far left up in the tree?
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Bilbo wrote:
Hi OMW,

Where did you get the Hobbit archer on the far left up in the tree?


I think the sculptor is Mark Copplestone It is an OOP Grenadier Model
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=CC
May be avaible here
http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?=&cNam ... 6q3ob8th63

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I stopped by Treefort. They were playing 10mm WWI.

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Ground up leaves from the yard on felt using the fabric glue in the link.

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My brother uses coffee grounds and tea. The ground up leaves work well too.

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The 10mm game uses a hex system. Irregular shapes would work better for 28mm.
The trees are flocked cake decorations very cheep but still cool!

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you can also use things like dried herbs that look like good leaf scatter especially when there are no leaves to be found on any trees ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:45 pm 
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Thanks for all the help. Old man willow that 10mm WWI stuff is the look I am after.

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pokyha wrote:
Thanks for all the help. Old man willow that 10mm WWI stuff is the look I am after.

I think Kirk used a blender to chop them up. I have and old one from a thrift store I use for chopping up foam cushions for flock.I have a table saw so I use a lot of saw dust too.
I am glad the info was helpful 8)

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