I know I am asking slot here, but I am still relatively new to this, and before I started buying and building an army I wanted to know roughly what would make up a good MM army and therefore not wasting too much of my money x

Plus I am female and you guys should try and help the ladies as much as possible! Hehe

I know you are female, I'm good at guessing genders. Before I give you a list, I want t know how fair you want to play ie blackshields or gobbos with shields (or a mix of the 2)

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-FSM.

How did you know Gothmog??? Hehe. Well I play against an all guy group, one of them is an ex, so I will do anything to win him so tell you what, why not give me a fluff list as you call it, and then a list with no fluff! Sounds funny that

I will do so, but I have to go out now, will give you them when I come back in 2-3 hours. Yes a fluffy list is a weird name, and as for how I know, people give signs.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

Like this ahhhhhh

Thank you Gothmog, I'm off out now too so I will check that out later x

Here's a fluffless list:

Epic Heroes:
Durburz
Druzhag
Khamul

Common Formations:
Giant Spider Brood (3 companies)
Moria Prowler Warband (3 companies)
Moria Prowler Warband (3 companies)
Moria Prowler Warband (2 companies)

Rare Formations:
Stone Giant
Gundabad Blackshields (4 companies)
Gundabad Blackshields (3 companies)
Gundabad Blackshields (3 companies)


And here's a fluffier list:

Epic Heroes:
Durburz

Common Formations:
Moria Goblin Warband (5 companies) with shields
Moria Goblin Warband (5 companies) with shields
Moria Goblin Warband (3 companies) with bows
Moria Goblin Warband (3 companies) with bows
Warg Pack (3 companies)
Moria Prowler Warband (3 companies)

Rare Formations:
5 Cave Trolls

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

Do you rate the stone giant? Wouldn't 2 Mordor trolls as allies be better?

Mordor Trolls are too easy to kill, you need 3 or 2 and a Chieftain. Stone Giants are Uber, plus with Durburz there's his overlord to give it a heroic move to make it even more deadly. A common tactic by powergamers.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

Would you always play spider brood over Wargs? I know this sounds silly but I like the look of the Wargs and want them in my army. Plus would you ever play a Warg chieften?

No, wargs are good too, (and Druzhag can summon either), there cheap, and in small formations can attack in rear. It's best not to use Chieftains too often even though the model is really cool, unless you can avoid all ES heroes in range, as ne ES duel spells destruction for whole formation.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

So just stick with the basic Wargs? That is a shame as the chieften looks cool, wouldn't the cheiften help with at the doubles tho?

It woul, its the main benefit but you could stick a cheap ES hero in their instead unless you knew you could avoid all ES heroes or were playing at a much larger pts eg 2000-3000pts and had several formations of themthat it would be a waste of theitr might points.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

What sort of ES Hero would you think of? I would need a mounted version wouldn't I?

Really appreciate the input Gothmog.

Thanks, it okay, I love to help a fellow LOTR player

Firstly, Durburz, as he's in the list, you'd have to convert a mounted versiomn though. Secondly, Thrydan he's the same pts as a chieftain. Thirdly, Dalymyr, and fourthly Gothmog.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

It's not a waste taking them out of a larger formation then to place into a Wargs formation?

As long as you don't leave them in long enough for you opponant to blast them with artillery or something. Also if your using the second choice (thrydan) he's so cheap that it doesn't really matter if he gets killed especially ifthey used something with a high cost to do so, and kept them away from something more valuable.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

Tell me if you want me to stop asking questions, once I get going I can't stop. What is the best size for a formation of Wargs? Is it better to have more formations of smaller sizes or bigger formations?