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The big problem we have been having with the LOTR figures is that the axes break off.

lol that one dwarf certainly reminds me to gandalf ; is he the one called grimdalf?:p

Look at Reaper they sell weapon packs too.

If you pick up any of those hasslefree dwarves please post a size comparison shot with some lotR models!

Ravens of Erebor.
The stats of a bat swarm? That is a tough call. I think of bats as scary and dirty but not dangerous. When I think of the ravens I think of spy's or demon familiars. Ravens are more aggressive than bats. I have never seen a bat chase off a cat.They were very dangerous in Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds. I would think about better stats. I am not sure how to point them up.
Who made the models?

Splintered Light Miniatures

Mega Miniatures http://freeboardgamesnow.com/fantasyothernpc.aspx
Some of these might do.

I think the top and the bottom of the warhammer weapon would make good mace heads jut cut them off and lengthen the weapon shaft 5mm or 1/4 inch. Save the center section of the weapon for a caltrop.
It would probably look alright to cut the shaft just above the the bottom metal part of the club. I think it would look better with a little more shaft.

Very nice! I always love those little conversions which have such a good effect to make an army more personal!
Well done so far!

What are those bases from?

Author:	kidterminal [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:09 am ]
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A long time ago two boys, who in adulthood would meet New York City to become friends, read some books collectively known as The Lord of the Rings. In the appendices is a story which would burn in their minds for the rest of their lives, the War of the Dwarves and the Orcs. We tried a few preliminary SBG games about two years ago. I fielded a force of Mordor Orcs with a banner and two captains against a party of Dwarf Warriors and Dwarf Rangers lead by a captain. My poor Mordor Orcs were spanked like the naughty children the are. I was clear we had much work to do to realize our dream. So we put the project aside for a while. Now it is time to begin again. On thread I'll work on new personality profiles, scenarios and house rules for this game. I'll also post the progress of the miniature conversions and paint jobs. DWARVES We will be using the GW LOTR figures and their SBG profiles. We wanted more hero models so we are considering using some of the Hasselfree Dwarves. I think they should fit in perfectly with the GW LOTR figures. The big problem we have been having with the LOTR figures is that the axes break off. We need to fin replacements for them. I'm hoping these Hasselfree ones might work. Any and all suggestions/criticisms would be greatly appreciated. Rob

Author:	Oldman Willow [ Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:34 pm ]
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Quote: The big problem we have been having with the LOTR figures is that the axes break off. I have had the same problem with pikes. The plastic oxidizes and they break. I have begun replacing them with wire. If Wargames Factory ever sorts out their problems we can use there plastic dwarfs. I like the models you have picked out. Look at Reaper they sell weapon packs too.

Author:	Raukov [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:33 am ]
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If you pick up any of those hasslefree dwarves please post a size comparison shot with some lotR models! I want to do a dwarf warband myself but I can't stand the GW plastics, always on the lookout for alternatives.

Author:	garmenhord [ Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:10 pm ]
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lol that one dwarf certainly reminds me to gandalf ; is he the one called grimdalf?:p

Author:	kidterminal [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:06 am ]
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garmenhord wrote: lol that one dwarf certainly reminds me to gandalf ; is he the one called grimdalf?:p Yes he is. Here is Grimdalf the Grey: Oldman Willow wrote: Look at Reaper they sell weapon packs too. Do you mean these? Raukov wrote: If you pick up any of those hasslefree dwarves please post a size comparison shot with some lotR models! Will do. Since most of Durin's Folk lived in Erebor during the War of the Dwarves and Orcs, I want to add some units of Ravens of Erebor. What do you guys think? Should I use the profile for bat swarms or make up a new one?

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Author:	garmenhord [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:13 am ]
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Depends on their size/amount. Dunno what's strongest bird or bat? Bats seem vurnable. But birds are to. U could at least take over some of the stats of bat swarm.

Author:	Oldman Willow [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:44 am ]
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Ravens of Erebor. The stats of a bat swarm? That is a tough call. I think of bats as scary and dirty but not dangerous. When I think of the ravens I think of spy's or demon familiars. Ravens are more aggressive than bats. I have never seen a bat chase off a cat.They were very dangerous in Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds. I would think about better stats. I am not sure how to point them up. Who made the models?

Author:	kidterminal [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:50 am ]
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Oldman Willow wrote: Ravens of Erebor. The stats of a bat swarm? That is a tough call. I think of bats as scary and dirty but not dangerous. When I think of the ravens I think of spy's or demon familiars. Ravens are more aggressive than bats. I have never seen a bat chase off a cat.They were very dangerous in Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds. I would think about better stats. I am not sure how to point them up. Who made the models? Yes the Ravens are large birds and can do some damage to a person. I'm not sure how much damage they should do at the moment. These are from Splintered Light Miniatures. The make 18mm fantasy figures.

Author:	Oldman Willow [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:32 am ]
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Quote: Splintered Light Miniatures I missed the birds have you seen the bats? Never mind they are next to the birds on the web site. David and his father are good people.They are just on the other side of town.

Author:	Oldman Willow [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:20 pm ]
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Mega Miniatures http://freeboardgamesnow.com/fantasyothernpc.aspx Some of these might do.

Author:	kidterminal [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:29 am ]
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Oldman Willow wrote: Mega Miniatures http://freeboardgamesnow.com/fantasyothernpc.aspx Some of these might do. Thanks for the link Oldman. The shields don't look suitable at all, but I have found a few Dwarf figures which should work well with the GW ones. They're less then $2 a figure to boot!

Author:	Oldman Willow [ Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:06 pm ]
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FANTASY Guthrie Grenadier There are some good figures in the FANTASY Guthrie Grenadier line as well. Lots of good female figures for rangers dwarfs and hobbits in that collection. I am glad the link was helpful. Mega Miniatures http://freeboardgamesnow.com/fantasyothernpc.aspx http://freeboardgamesnow.com/fantasyjul ... spx?page=2 http://freeboardgamesnow.com/fantasytow ... spx?page=2

Author:	kidterminal [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:20 am ]
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Ok my opponent all ready has Khazad Guard (from Balin's Guard box set), Dwarf Rangers, and Dwarf Rangers. All he needs now are the ravens and more hero/captain figures. So for now this ends the Dwarf section. ORCS Now on to my portion of this grand adventure; Orcs!!! Now I've never been satisfied with with a single plastic box set for Mordor Orcs. Orcs are a viscous rabble and they should damn well look like it. I've tried to find orcs from other manufactures, which will match the GW ones. You can see my efforts on this thread: http://one-ring.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=20246 In addition to searching for compatible orcs, I've begun to convert my plastic orcs. Please excuse the photo quality, my camera doesn't do micro so well. The orc on the left isn't finished yet. He needs a left hand and a shield. Converting this spear orc turned out to be easier than I thought. I used a club form the Warhammer Flagellants set for the orc on the right, but the Warhammer weapons are just too oversized. Well back to the chopping block for him.

Author:	garmenhord [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:41 pm ]
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they look nice so far

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Author:	Oldman Willow [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:04 pm ]
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I think the top and the bottom of the warhammer weapon would make good mace heads jut cut them off and lengthen the weapon shaft 5mm or 1/4 inch. Save the center section of the weapon for a caltrop. It would probably look alright to cut the shaft just above the the bottom metal part of the club. I think it would look better with a little more shaft.

Author:	kidterminal [ Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:12 pm ]
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Oldman Willow wrote: I think the top and the bottom of the warhammer weapon would make good mace heads jut cut them off and lengthen the weapon shaft 5mm or 1/4 inch. Save the center section of the weapon for a caltrop. It would probably look alright to cut the shaft just above the the bottom metal part of the club. I think it would look better with a little more shaft. I think I'll drill out the hands and use a pin for the shaft and attach only the very top of the mace head fro the striking head. Thanks garmenhord. I'm going to try to do 20 conversions before I start painting.

Author:	kidterminal [ Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:22 pm ]
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Here are some more Orc conversions. I've swapped heads, right arms and in some cases ring hands. They will still need some putty work to fix up the joints. I've added a new mace using another mace head from the Empire Flagellants Set. I think the shaft is too long, and this mace head seems too big. What do you guys think? I'm getting more poses with these plastics than I initially thought.

Author:	TheBucklandBrewer [ Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:13 pm ]
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Very nice! I always love those little conversions which have such a good effect to make an army more personal! Well done so far! What are those bases from?

Author:	kidterminal [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:39 am ]
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TheBucklandBrewer wrote: Very nice! I always love those little conversions which have such a good effect to make an army more personal! Well done so far! Thank you Bart. TheBucklandBrewer wrote: What are those bases from? They are Galeforce 9 magnetic bases. They add weight to the plastic figures. And they're magnetic, which I find useful for storage.

Author:	edge67 [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:15 am ]
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The conversions are fantastic - and much better than the original GW models. I agree the shaft is too long on the mace, but the mace head looks OK for size? It would be great to see a mace head on a chain ala witch king Can't wait to see them painted up.