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Author:  HaldirVarian [ Wed May 19, 2010 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  Helms Deep
Ok.. so have i been forgotten by any of you guys? =D So I'm back.. gonna start on this project.. I've realized a lot has changed.. Even the game play has evolved.. Gosh.. haha

Oh well.. this got me working on my actually first terrain i did years back.. I might not build the whole thing but probably just the Gatehouse and the causeway.. Perhaps I'll try to do the outer circle too.. Too big a project.. I don't have the space to put it.. =D so stay tune guys.. Here's what I've come up so far..

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I've included links for the actual size of the drawings just so in case you guys wanna use it as a template
Author:  donuthare [ Wed May 19, 2010 11:37 am ]
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i sell my helmsdeep for 1000$ lol:) just watch the movies a lot, and read tomes of wisdom(they can help you were to start building and what seizes!)
Author:  Haldir_Strikes [ Wed May 19, 2010 12:00 pm ]
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Mate! I remember you and your fantastic buildings quite well :) ah those were the days; when there were 3 or 4 haldirs' running round the forums :p

I'll be watching this with earnest as I'm looking to make a helms deep of my own for scenario play. To that end I think you should also have a stab at thedeeping wall eh eh eh ;)
Author:  Oldman Willow [ Wed May 19, 2010 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  space is a problem
I am in the early stages of planning Helms deep too. I have one of the gate house models GW produced some time ago. I thought of expanding the curtain wall to the rock face. I also wanted to make a junction with the Deeping wall. Most of the battle take place there and around the cause way and gate.
Space is a problem for me as well. I Know I want to build the whole thing but I know I have to dig up the floor in the work shop and pour a new slab first. Oh Did I mention paint the house. :sad:
Author:  Drumstick [ Wed May 19, 2010 3:14 pm ]
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me 3 am also building helm's deep.. seems theres plenty of us around! lol

Drum
Author:  donuthare [ Wed May 19, 2010 5:01 pm ]
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oldman: im planning to build hobbiton:D

world is strange. i don't have enough time and money, but very enough space, and u have jus opposite:(
Author:  Oldman Willow [ Wed May 19, 2010 10:02 pm ]
Post subject:  good work
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oldman: im planning to build hobbiton


Cool :)

You did such a nice job on your Helms Deep, I am looking forward to seeing what you do with a Hobbit Village.

I like this site too :D
Author:  donuthare [ Thu May 20, 2010 9:51 am ]
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thankyouthankyou:) but i still need to build the rock, and, oow, im to lazy:D
Author:  Oldman Willow [ Thu May 20, 2010 8:34 pm ]
Post subject:  The Deeping wall
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o that end I think you should also have a stab at the deeping wall eh eh eh Wink


I agree. The deeping wall is fairly easy to improvise. A strait wall with towers at both ends is useful. I thought about a junction to the keep wall that was just on a level surface. I know I will never be happy with that. However it would be fine just to play out the scenario a few times and won't take up that much space.
Author:  damaskiss [ Fri May 21, 2010 6:03 am ]
Post subject:  work
cant wait to see the finished project
Author:  donuthare [ Fri May 21, 2010 9:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Deeping wall
Oldman Willow wrote:
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o that end I think you should also have a stab at the deeping wall eh eh eh Wink


I agree. The deeping wall is fairly easy to improvise. A strait wall with towers at both ends is useful. I thought about a junction to the keep wall that was just on a level surface. I know I will never be happy with that. However it would be fine just to play out the scenario a few times and won't take up that much space.


deeping wall isn't str8, it's little curved aint it?
Author:  Oldman Willow [ Fri May 21, 2010 2:02 pm ]
Post subject:  The Deeping wall
Yes you are right, In the movie the wall is curved and there is no tower on the west side. But if you going to improvise the battle field You could use what you already have or build something you could use for something else.
This is a link from an article from 1996:

http://larsen-family.us/~1066/helmsdeep.html

http://larsen-family.us/~1066/wargamepi ... epgame.jpg

The author has his own set of rules and scenarios for Most of the Battles of Middle Earth. The are not hard to covert LOTRSG

This link is to a drawing by JRRT Of Helms Deep with a strait wall and 3 towers with a cave entrance on the west side.The wall has wooden hording and may be a wooden palisade.

http://www.tolkien.ru/pictures/pbjrrt/helm_s_deepm.jpg

I am going to copy the one in the movie. But all I need for the one in the article is a foam hill for my Mighty Fortress Model
Author:  donuthare [ Sat May 22, 2010 10:05 am ]
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it's a nice castle, but not helmsdeep, im sorry:)
Author:  Drumstick [ Sat May 22, 2010 10:39 am ]
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That is actually what Tolkien pictured Helm's Deep as, in the film they misunderstood the area about the tower & where it was placed. But nowadays people just know it as the hornburgh built into the mountain along with the castle. If you read over his work it's very interesting - & the attention to detail is astonishing! but hey, a Helm's Deep is a Helm's Deep ( if that makes sense :wink: )

Drum

@donuthare; hows the mountain coming along on your HM, or are we having a long tea break? lol
Author:  HaldirVarian [ Sun May 23, 2010 1:32 pm ]
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HHm.. ok tell mi what do you think guys.. Comments or room for improvements..

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Author:  Oldman Willow [ Sun May 23, 2010 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  nice work
Very nice clean work.The brick work is top notch.

How do you plain to approach the vaulted ceiling in the gate?
Do you think the balsa wood will be strong enough for the gate to work correctly?
Do you have something in mind to make the gate stronger when you detail the back side of the door?
I am looking forward to your next post. :yay:
Author:  HaldirVarian [ Sun May 23, 2010 2:33 pm ]
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I have no idea of the gate.. but as for the roof top.. i've roughly an idea on how its gonna work.. haha =D

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so how about this.. i'll just go draw some brick works on it.. =D
Author:  Noddwyr [ Sun May 23, 2010 6:56 pm ]
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Looks very good. Very clean. :D :yay:
Author:  Dorthonion [ Sun May 23, 2010 7:27 pm ]
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In some ways, it is great to see the fastest terrain builder in the world back in action.

In other ways, it makes me feel bloody guilty.... :-X

My only quibble - I would have made it bigger... but that's just me trying to do it all LARGE again :oops:
Author:  HaldirVarian [ Sun May 23, 2010 11:22 pm ]
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Lol.. Dort its gooooood to see u again.. =D aWw.. gotta correct you on that.. I aint the fastest terrain builder anymore.. Ever since i've started working.. time just seem very spared for such stuff.. Build yet again the passion that drives me.. yearns me to finish this.. probably my last ever project =D

Any why do u feel guilty? lol.. i've never seen you made helms deep before.. have you?
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