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 Post subject: My W.i.p. last update at : 31-01(Beacon)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:50 pm 
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hi
well lets start

here's a nazgul with some special things:
- the first time i ever took of pictures of a mini
- the first time i tried some blending(the "coath" of the nazgul)
- the first time i tried NNM (at the armor)
here it is:
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maybe the pictures are a bit too big, but well never mind:3

what do you think?


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I would not have the sword handle in gold on a Nazgul - all the swords in the films had an aged, corroded appearance. All the metal was aged and pitted - well, these guys have been around for about 5000 years... almost as long as DurinsBane. :roll:
And the pics are a little too big... but very clear.

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I would not have the sword handle in gold on a Nazgul - all the swords in the films had an aged, corroded appearance. All the metal was aged and pitted - well, these guys have been around for about 5000 years... almost as long as DurinsBane. :roll:
And the pics are a little too big... but very clear.


I did all my nazgul with a gold handle, just for a bit of variety and detail, gives the mini a nice sort of 'glint'.

looking cool. got to do the base too 8)

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thanks:O
well about the golden handle, i still have to paint some nazgul (till i have painted nine of them:3)

and about basing, i have never based any mini, and i've no clue to do it proper:3
maybe i should give it a try
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Basing is actually really easy, and my favorite part of the mini... :-D
Simply put some PVA on the base, make sure it covers its entirety, then dip it in some sand. What type of base are you aiming for? For a sandy one, just leave it with the sand, maybe put dab of PVA here and there and put some static grass. For a rocky one, when the sand is dry, paint it scorched brown, wait for that to dry, then heavily drybrush it with bleached bone, wait for that to dry, dab some PVA here and there, and dip it in some static grass... easy!
For the rocky base you can see the results I got on the Gondor archers in my gallery. You could also check out DurinsBane's article on basing 8)

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okay, thanks:O
does it matter which sand you use?
and does it matter to use flock or static grass?

anyway, it sounds quite simply:O

Your base look cool
and Durinsbane's article( http://www.one-ring.co.uk/phpBB2/kb.php ... ticle&k=86) is pretty usefull
thanks:3
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if you really dont care about bases ( like me) just use flock and add a lil bit of static grass and a few rocks here and there
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I think bases are a pain in the rear and pretty boring.

I did the dunlending in my gallery by painting the sand 'dark flesh'. drybrushed it 'bronzed flesh', lightly drybrushed patches 'skull white'. Then glued a few patches of static grass. So simple!

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thanks for all the advice for basing:O
i'll get the base-stuff soon

but before i'll do that, i've done this stuff(cause i've holiday now):
1. i just finished an elf a few days ago, another attempt with nmm(donnow if it turned out well)
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2. a wip of another nazgul, this time i tried painting him like the necromancer
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3. some uruks for the amon-hen scenario(in the fellowship journeybook)
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4. an attempt to recreate amon-hen(following ebobs guide), my first terrain piece(after some hedges and trees). and a lot have to be done, but it's just the beginning
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Good painting BaruKhazad - especially with the Uruk-hai! 8)

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i really like the elf's armour. the uruks cloth is also very good :wink:

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Looks like you're making progress.

I'd advise thinning your paints (or thinning them more if you already do), and practise painting thin coats. It should help blending, and also remove any "chalkiness" on the mini.
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Good work Baruk, the uruks look particularly good. However the elf's armour requires something considerably more to be near true NMM. First of all, NMM won't work unless you have quite a few layers. From here I can see 3-4 layers. Treble or quadruple that and it will begin to look like true, properly blended NMM. Push the contrast more, the darkest areas should be around bestial brown colour, with scorched brown dividing the armour plates. Gradually work from BB to Snakebite, from that to Bubonic, from that to either Bleached Bone or Skull White+Bubonic. As Tidoco helpfully informed me a few months ago, gold never reflects pure white, so don't go that bright. Remember, thin your paints and put on tons of layers, the more time you spend the better it'll turn out.

On his cloak we have the opposite, the contrast is a bit too much. Again, try to use more thin layers and get a more gradual colour change, and even with the current colours, it would still look better.

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thanks for the advice darkwind:O
i'll sure try it out
but how do you manage to water downs paints? when i do that it becomes ink, and with ink you cant paint:P

well, here'some other progress:
1. i tried to recreate to gates of moria(not the one with the watcher in the water but the other on), so i looked at the passage of the film, and here's the result:
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2. my "finished" amon-hen, both amonhen and the gate needs to be painted(but im lazy)
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3. and the nazgul, but now it is finished^^
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lovely amopn hen. interesting green wraith. love the large gates of moria!

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Very nice Amon Hen there mate. Well constructed, cant wait to see it painted up!
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BaruKhazad wrote:
thanks for the advice darkwind:O
i'll sure try it out
but how do you manage to water downs paints? when i do that it becomes ink, and with ink you cant paint:P


By water down I mean keep you paint at a consistency that does not leave brush marks when it dries, this also helps blend the colours better. And yes, in fact you can paint with ink, and thinner if you have patience. The very best painters use nothing but glazes to paint most of their miniatures. A glaze is basically tinted water. The trick to applying heavily thinned down stuff is to have barely any of it on the brush. If your brush isn't too loaded it will apply like normal paint.

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DarkWind wrote:
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thanks for the advice darkwind:O
i'll sure try it out
but how do you manage to water downs paints? when i do that it becomes ink, and with ink you cant paint:P


By water down I mean keep you paint at a consistency that does not leave brush marks when it dries, this also helps blend the colours better. And yes, in fact you can paint with ink, and thinner if you have patience. The very best painters use nothing but glazes to paint most of their miniatures. A glaze is basically tinted water. The trick to applying heavily thinned down stuff is to have barely any of it on the brush. If your brush isn't too loaded it will apply like normal paint.

so basicly it comes down to this: water down the paints, put very little on your brush and paint the same area a couple of times?

and thanks cameda09 and corsair for the positive feedback at amon-hen^^
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Exactly, even if the first layer is semi-transparent, build it up till you get a solid block of colour. Keep at it! 8)

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thanks a lot!
ill try it out when i pick up another mini to paint
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