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Can I re-roll a natural 1?
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 Post subject: 2 handed weapon feinting
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:36 pm 
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So... If I feint, but use my sword as a two-handed weapon, does the re-roll of a one apply to the natural roll or the roll after bonuses.
Also, any idea how to submit this question for a FAQ?

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 Post subject: Re: 2 handed weapon feinting
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I guess you'd have to email GW or call their support line and get an email for the ME team in order to get them to answer it in the faq.

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The rules state that you can re-rol rolls of a 1. This means the natural dice result. Even with the +1 modifier the roll is still a 1 but counts as a 2 for the purpose of wounding the opponent.
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I don't mean to sound rude but how do you know that is what it means? The wording under the two-handed section implies that the To Wound role gets a +1 to the result shown on the die, not +1 to the result when applied to the chart. The feinting role also does not say anything about the 1 being natural. Was their an old faq that I missed? Is this occurrence just so common with other games that it is a generally excepted interpretation that needs no explanation?

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I mean, the natural roll would seem logical, otherwise you just destroyed your fight value for nothing... On the other hand, Anduril is now failing on 2s only.

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Good question.

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Thanks! I could not find a SBG e-mail.

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Let us know what they send back!

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Nothing yet, but hopefully it will be in the next FAQ.

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"We've forwarded this to middle-earthfaq@gwplc.com to be considered for the next FAQ. In the future, feel free to send your questions there!
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The response will hopefully be in a FAQ.

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Progress! Very good. Thank you for doing the leg work Cave Dragon.

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I'd assume they'll keep it consistent across the games. In both AoS and 40k, re-rolls always happen before modifiers, despite the weird situations that can come up, where you can't re-roll a roll that would fail after the modifiers, despite the rule allowing you to re-roll "all failed rolls."
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:47 am 
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I'd clearly say, if you throw 1 it's a 1. Everything afterwards are just Boni.
In the german rulebook, it's clearly stated at some points, that you have a "3-throw" or a "5-throw" where the dice is shown, thats your throw, and afterwards you modify. (on the other hand: I had some bad experiences with the german translation lately)
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Ah, thank you! Now to spam 2-handed Anduril with feinting... Fear me.

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I am disappointed that the SBG team did not take the time to clear it up officially with the recent FAQ. Since the general consensuses that the affects are applied after rerolls I will treat it as such until I hear any better arguments. I'll have to keep it in mind with my elves, clansmen, and especially Hurin the Tall in the future.

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Even if you were str10 and the target was Defense 1 you would usually need a 3+ to wound, if you two-handed the attack the +1 to wound would make this a 2+ to wound and if you feinted then you would reroll a 1 for a single extra chance. I’m guessing the confusion is in saying that the actual dice roll is modified to a different number which no longer counts as rolling a 1, but it’s the number you need that is modified imo not the dice roll.
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