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Author:  Grey Company [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
I am pondering about starting a Mumak with a strictly Mahud force. Will I be able to still obtain enough Mahud warriors, raiders...? Is it just another pretty face or will the force be able to do some major face plantings -- not my own I mean? Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
Author:  Rangefinder [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
In the SBG, the Mahud Raiders are awesome! Free Strength 4 hit before combat!
Mahud Warriors are pretty good Defense and Strength too. Everybody has at least 1 Fate Point.
...courage stinks.

Built my Mahud force for WOTR Mahud Wartribe Battlehost. Look so cool on the Mumak.
You could blend Mahud Warriors and Half Trolls up there in LOTR/SBG, just an thought...

Last I checked, Mahud are still in stock at GW.

But locally we play LOTR/SBG.
Not an economical force for WOTR, per se.
Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Rangefinder wrote:
In the SBG, the Mahud Raiders are awesome!


No they are not. They used to have 2 attacks base and Fight 4 plus Warrior Pride Rule as well as good strength and free strength 4 hit, theyu got majorly weakened but only cost 3pts less.
Author:  MeatBoy1994 [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
The Mahud have been seriously nerfed in the new libros... They aren't worth taking anymore. Half trolls are still good, though.
Author:  Rangefinder [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Agreed..., I wish they still had 2 attacks, and the Warrior Pride is missed.
No control over what GW did there. I had good success playing LOTR/SBG.
Difficult to change my mind on the Raiders!
Author:  Highlordell [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Yeah, as has been said Mahud have nerfed worse than i dont know what...

The fact you could only buy them in packs of 3 was justified by their power. Now they are arguably overpriced and no different to a Dunlending.

I've got 10 of the blighters and im very annoyed that they are practically useless.

In fact, a Dunlending Warrior with shield has the same stats as a Mahud Warrior, for the same cost, but has a better courage.

On a happier side note...Half-Trolls are now brilliant - buy them instead! :)
Author:  Rangefinder [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Next battle, I am going to run my Half Trolls from my WOTR force in a single Warband.
Maybe 2 warbands worth, I have like 6 companies (WOTR) of them!

Any suggestion to who should lead that mess?

I have Betrayer, Suladan, Hasharin, and regular Captains etc...
Author:  Grey Company [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Thank you very much everyone for your thoughts on the Mahud force. I have 2 half trolls already, a Mumak I can use, but not much else in regards to this army. I just like the idea of playing with variety of forces and as I don't mind losing, it makes the game more fun for me as I will go out of my comfort zone. I hope they release these in plastic soon.
Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
They would never release Mahud into plastic, they will end up in FC though.
Author:  whafrog [ Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Highlordell wrote:
Yeah, as has been said Mahud have nerfed worse than i dont know what...


And when they came out we hated them because of the power creep... :)

Highlordell wrote:
The fact you could only buy them in packs of 3 was justified by their power. Now they are arguably overpriced and no different to a Dunlending.


Except blow pipes can now be used with 1/2 move, which makes up for it somewhat IMHO.
Author:  Maermaethor [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
I don't know the exact rules, but I am very glad personally about the Mahud nerf. I took out all my Mahud stuff and started painting those Mahud Raiders that I have had for ages but never bothered painting up. I hated having African tribesmen who could pwn anyone else in combat. Also, the warrior pride rule was really annoying, as you had to have your Mahud king in combat, but mine would always die, even if it didn't get surrounded or attacked by those pesky dwarf heroes. The Mahud will be good to use in the midst of my Haradrim warriors to attack those D6 enemies, and the Raiders will still be awesome with their S4 throwing weapons when charging.

Thanks!

Maermaethor.
Author:  lorderkenbrand [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Has the half-troll stats changed at all?
Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
They have +1 defence for 1 extra pt.
Author:  Grey Company [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Thank you everyone for the helpful replies. Okay, I have been enticed eventhough the Mahud warrior and raider Fight values are a 3. So, Mahud army with a Mumak here I come. Now, what should I purchase and what quantity?
Author:  Highlordell [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:
They have +1 defence for 1 extra pt.


They also have 1 better Courage and now cause Terror...for 1 extra point. :)
Author:  Grey Company [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
How about this?

1 Mahud King foot and mounted
3 Mahud Tribesmasters
12 Madhud warriors for the Mumak (blowpipe)
12 additional Madhud warriors for ground troop (blowpipe)
24 Madhud warriors (spears/swords/shields)
24 Madhud Raiders
4 Half Trolls
4 Watcher of Karna
4 Abrakhan's Merchant Guard
Author:  Rangefinder [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Your going to need to buy the Mahud King model and call him a Tribemaster.
The Tribemaster is not in production at this time, as far as I can tell. Might
have seen it once on Ebay a while ago.

Keep in mind you army list here is entirely made of metal mineature$. (except for the Mumak that is)
Author:  Highlordell [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Rangefinder wrote:
Your going to need to buy the Mahud King model and call him a Tribemaster.
The Tribemaster is not in production at this time, as far as I can tell. Might
have seen it once on Ebay a while ago.

Keep in mind you army list here is entirely made of metal mineature$. (except for the Mumak that is)


I'm sure the Mahud Tribesmaster is a converted Haradrim spearman with a different head and shield, could be wrong though.

About the force, seems pretty strong, but how many points is it. :)
Author:  Grey Company [ Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
I had a good laugh after adding the above list up. Without any upgrades -- roughly 1524 points. Thanks for letting me know about the Chief tribesmen possibly not being available. This may get very interesting. Thank you everyone.
Author:  lorderkenbrand [ Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mumak: Mahud force worth it?
Highlordell wrote:
GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:
They have +1 defence for 1 extra pt.


They also have 1 better Courage and now cause Terror...for 1 extra point. :)


cheers for the info! 8)

I can confirm the Mahud Tribesmaster in the Harad Sourcebook is simply a plastic spearman with a Mahud head and shield.
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