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| Author: | zkajo [ Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Easterling 700 points force with Khandish Chariots |
Hello guys! I wanted to get some advice on a force I'm preparing. I haven't got too much experience with battles, but I think this could be a good matchup. I went for no archers what-so-ever. 700 Pts ------- Warband 1 (15/15) Amdur on Horse Easterling Kataphrakts x6 Easterling Warrior with shield x6 Easterling Warrior with pike and shield x6 ------- Warband 2 (15/15) Khamul (on foot) Easterling Warrior with pike and shield x 7 Easterling Warrior with pike and shield (black dragon) x 7 ------- Warband 3 (3/12) Khandish Chieftain with chariot Khandish Charioteer x 2 ------- Summary: Amdur on Horse 6 Kataphrakts 16 pikes (7 black dragons) 6 swords 1 Khand Chieftain Chariot 2 Khand Charioteers Because most of the army is heavily armoured, I'm hoping I'll be able to get to the enemy bows with my chariots and cav by the time I'm obliterated. Khamul is to lead the Phalanx, so that he can sap will whilst getting some kills. What do you think? |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Easterling 700 points force with Khandish Chariots |
So you have the right idea, but fight mounted elves and you will die. I recommend tossing in some Easterling Warriors with bows(at least eight). Best point value for what you will be using them for. In all honesty, I would sack Kamul, as I never liked ringwraiths. They have one attack at fight five, and only cost so much because of the will, which will deplete faster than an orc army attacking Boromir with a horn. Or skip the bows and take Amdur instead of Kamul and sack one pikeman. And give the chariot a bow, just to have some shooting, even while you charge. The defensive bulwark will help you. But overall good list. |
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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Easterling 700 points force with Khandish Chariots |
Running a list without any archer can be risky as Cave Dragon said. If you come up against a model shooting army like Rivendell or Rohan or Harad and the scenario does not force them to stand and fight you will have really problems. Even with the cavalry of your own to catch them, your infantry will likely not be able to support in time and you will only get defeated in detail. That said, it is not a very likely match up and some people think the risk is negligible. I have done so in the past and done alright more often than poorly. The only thing I might suggest is getting Khamul on a horse so he can both have a better line of sight over his infantry block but also to let him play more aggressively if you need him to. I would definitely keep him in there though. |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Easterling 700 points force with Khandish Chariots |
I feel like Amdur might be more effective than Kamul though, more killing power. |
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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Easterling 700 points force with Khandish Chariots |
He already has Amdur leading the cavalry. Khamul is not a combat powerhouse but his spells can stop up a troll or a mid to low tier hero and stop it from wrecking the phalanx. |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Easterling 700 points force with Khandish Chariots |
Whoops, missed that. My bad. |
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| Author: | zkajo [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Easterling 700 points force with Khandish Chariots |
I'm aware that archers might bring about my doom. However, I was hoping that I could negate that damage by trying to get into melee as quickly as possible. I would push my infantry forward and then bring my cavalry. I should hope that Easterlings can take on quite a few shots. I decided to spend more points on melee infantry rather than archers because, to be honest, Easterling archers are not very good anyway. Their defence is alright, but I feel they'll die quickly anyway. Perhaps taking Khamul on fell beast would help me get to the archers quickly... but then again that's quite costly, considering I have my chariots there already. |
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| Author: | Cave Dragon [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Easterling 700 points force with Khandish Chariots |
S3 weapons will kill on a 6, S4 on a five. In short, Uruks and elves, as well as Citadel Guards and dwarves will all slaughter you. Don't rely too heavily on D6. |
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| Author: | Wan Shi Tong [ Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Easterling 700 points force with Khandish Chariots |
If you feel the easterling archers would die to quickly to be useful consider that def 5 and def 6 both need 6s to be wounded by strength 2 bows. I am not saying you have to bring archers but it is something to consider in future lists. |
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