No thoughts on this guys, or is everyone in EFGT/Hobbit mode?
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| Author: | Thermo [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
So chaps, might be getting ahead of myself here, but once I've completed my 500pt Grey Company force, I'm thinking of a 500pt all Cav Rohan force led by Erkenbrand (I've got his model en route) I like the Eomer and also captain models. Any suggestions guys? Guessing with new bow rules with Rohan it would be 1000pts with 100% bows? |
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| Author: | Thermo [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
No thoughts on this guys, or is everyone in EFGT/Hobbit mode?
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
I'm pretty sure you'd stil be better taking some infantry because RoR are still underpowered, especially as archery in general is terrible. |
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| Author: | Thermo [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
Hmmm I guess so, although the plan was to use this force to support a Grey Company army if I start to play larger games and more out of love for Rohan as perhaps they should have been - predominately mounted. Any ideas how I could put together this 500pt force? Might not be terribly effective but still. |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
Well for startes you'd definately be wanting Erkanbrand, and you should upgrade some RoR into redshields. It is however quite late, and so I don't have time to work out a full army list for you. I could do tomorrow though, if noone else wants to help you. I for one do not envy you as a Rohan player, I know it is diffiicult, always has, but it is a bit better nowadays. Something like: Erky + 4 Riders redshields and 2 rrg Captain + " " " Captain (foot) + Outriders on foot and WoR w/ spears - or helmingas if you get Grimbold. |
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| Author: | Thermo [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
Thanks GtW, appreciate the response! Got an Erkenbrand on the way off eBay, hence the whim to get a Rohan force in the thought process. Lots of Rohirrim to be found on eBay too, much easier to find than Rangers of the North! Yup, having read this forum ten times over since finding you lot and being encouraged to get started, that lack of envy towards Rohan and cavalry is a reoccurring theme. But as I say, it's more out of a love for the models and for Tolkein's Rohirrim Same with the Grey Company List.
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| Author: | Thermo [ Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
So, thoughts on an all cavalry force at 500pts (thematic reasons only) Warband 1 - Erkenbrand (horse) 6 Westfold Redshields Warband 2 - Captain of Rohan (horse, heavy armour, shield, throwing spears and bow) 6 Riders of Rohan Warband 3 - Captain of Rohan (horse, heavy armour, shield, throwing spears and bow) 6 Riders of Rohan Leaves me with 35 points to a) Equip all but 1 Rohirrim with a throwing spear (or 501 with everyone) b) 2 x mounted Rohan Royal Guard (with throwing spears) Have given the Captains everything wargear wise as the shield and heavy armour are going to force strength 4 attacks to roll sixes, plus if they're leading what effectively amount to a skirmish based force who's tactics will live and die based upon the ability to move in and out of ranges, they might as well join in the shooting too. Had fancied Eomer but even he is too expensive for an all mounted 500pt force. so probably thinking a) 501pts, 21 cavalrywith 21 bows (RoR now ignore bow limits) 21 throwing spears, 7 might Thoughts? |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
Thermo wrote: So, thoughts on an all cavalry force at 500pts (thematic reasons only) Erkenbrand could upgrade all 18 RoR, he's not limited to those in his warband, which would be worth it I think. That eats 12 more points. But I think you have too many captains, you can put more than 6 RoR in a warband, and that would let you add some elites like Sons of Eorl or RRG, and upgrade one of the captains to Eomer. |
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| Author: | Thermo [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
Subject: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts whafrog wrote: Thermo wrote: So, thoughts on an all cavalry force at 500pts (thematic reasons only) Erkenbrand could upgrade all 18 RoR, he's not limited to those in his warband, which would be worth it I think. That eats 12 more points. But I think you have too many captains, you can put more than 6 RoR in a warband, and that would let you add some elites like Sons of Eorl or RRG, and upgrade one of the captains to Eomer. Thanks for your helpful comments Whafrofg, always enjoy your insight! That's fab about the Erkenbrand upgrade, didn't realise that it could apply to all! All good advice, I don't really know enough about sons of eorl or rrg as waiting on the sourcebook. How do they perform? Do they count as heroes and have their own warband or would they need to be added to a hero led warband? Something like Eomer 2x rrg 10 WF RS Erkenbrand 2x SoE 10 WF RS not got army builder in front if me but will Di proper calculations later tonight Thanks again. |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
RRG and SoE are warriors. RRG have heavy armour and the bodyguard rule...always useful for charging monsters. SoE have an extra attack, higher Str, and move faster, but they're expensive. |
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| Author: | Thermo [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
Thanks Whafrog So, second attempt at all mounted Rohan 500pts Warband 1 Eomer (MoR - mounted, shield, throwing spears) 2 x Rohan Royal Guard (mounted) 8 x Westfold Redshields (7 throwing spears) Warband 2 Erkenbrand (mounted) 2 x Sons of Eorl 8 x Westfold Redshields (8 throwing spears) Thoughts on second attempt? |
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| Author: | Constantine [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
I think it's a solid list. The only minor comment I have would be to include a Son of Eorl in which warband since your army will be focusing on hitting power. Remember to pick your fights prudently and using Heroic Moves only when absolutely necessary. I was just reading the GW Cavalry tactica on WD 375 by the way! |
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| Author: | RangerofTheNorth [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
Guess I need to get the sourcebook, but what are Red Shields? |
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| Author: | SouthernDunedain [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
They are better riders of rohan. |
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| Author: | LordElrond [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
Erkenbrand can upgrade them an they have more fight value |
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| Author: | SouthernDunedain [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
cough dont post specific rules like that cough. But yes, Erkie gives them a nice upgrade. |
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| Author: | SuicidalMarsbar [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
The list looks solid as it is. Lucky for you grey company make decent allies for rohan infantry, although the warband system slightly ruins this 
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| Author: | RangerofTheNorth [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
SouthernDunedain wrote: cough dont post specific rules like that cough. But yes, Erkie gives them a nice upgrade. That wasn't very specific, I'll have to look at the book in store. Rohan has needed higher fight value troops since TTT, glad that's fixed, now if we can just get lances they'd be perfect |
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| Author: | LordElrond [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
That's because i edited it |
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| Author: | SuicidalMarsbar [ Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Future All Cav Rohan 500pts |
RangerofTheNorth wrote: SouthernDunedain wrote: cough dont post specific rules like that cough. But yes, Erkie gives them a nice upgrade. That wasn't very specific, I'll have to look at the book in store. Rohan has needed higher fight value troops since TTT, glad that's fixed, now if we can just get lances they'd be perfect No, Rohan needs a standard spear option for it's infantry, or, as would be more logical considering rohan is the only army with throwing spears, make throwing spears behave like normal spears AND throwing spears woooah. |
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