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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 500 pt Harad army |
I've recently bougt a large number of warriors of Harad by Ebay and the Fallen Realms sourcebook. I'm concidering several army setups at 500 pt but would like some advice as to wich one is most effective (generally speaking..also i have no cavalry allthough i still have enough birthday cash left to buy a unit altough fluffwise i prefer infantry/Mumak) List idea 1 Haradrim Chieftain + bow + spear 12 Haradrim warriors + bow + Karna upgrade + banner 184 pts Haradrim Chieftain + bow + spear 12 Haradrim warriors + spear 135 pts Hasharin* 9 watchers of Karna + bow 180pts (* these could be replaced by a Uruk Hai Shaman and 8 Uruk Hai Berserkers for magic and hard punch at 175 pts) List Idea 2 Haradrim Chieftain + bow 12 Haradrim warriors + bow + Karna 158 pts Haradrim Chieftain + bow 12 Haradrim warriors + bow + Karna 158 pts Haradrim King + spear 12 Haradrim warriors + spear 145 pts Haradrim Chieftain + spear 12 Haradrim warriors + spear 130 List Idea 3 Haradrim Chieftain + bow + spear 4 Haradrim warriors + bow + karna 4 Haradrim warriors + spear 115 pts Haradrim Chieftain + bow + spear 4 Haradrim warriors + bow 4 Haradrim warriors + spear 104 pts Mumak 275 pts |
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| Author: | fritskuhntm [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
I think that the first list is the best, though you are over your 50% bowlimtit. you seem to like the karna upgrade, I refer watchers of karna because for 1 point extra you get an extra attack and fight 4. I myself am also collecting some warriors of karna, my army includes 17 watchers, 17 harad spear men, 2 chieftens and the betrayer. hope this helps 
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
Doh...forgot about bow limit..new idea...i drop the banner and replace Hasharin and watcher of karna with Golden King and Merchant guard..would look like this Haradrim Chieftain + bow + spear 12 Haradrim warriors + bow + Karna upgrade 159 pts Haradrim Chieftain + bow + spear 12 Haradrim warriors + spear 135 pts Golden King 10 Merchant Guard 195 pts Total 489 pts less shooty but Merchant Guard seem able to handle themselves as far as ive read (plus they just look cool especially with the king) |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
the bow limit is 50% for harad unless you use corsairs or far harad models. I dont understand your logic for giving the chieftain a bow in the group with no other bows. I would drop it and make some of your harad men into proper watchers of karna. Get some F4 in there. Thirdly why have 11pts left over? Drop 1 spear from a harad warrior in warband 2, and add 2 naked harad to warband 3. Finally. Split the merchant guard into warband 2 and 3. Haradrim Chieftain + bow + spear 6 Haradrim warriors + bow + Karna upgrade 6 Watchers of Karna with bow Haradrim Chieftain + spear 6 Haradrim warriors + spear +bow 4 merchant guard 2 harad warriors Golden King 6 Merchant Guard 4 Harad warriors + spear 1 harad warrior Assuming your maths was oringally right, this should be 500pts. It has more F4 and a better balance of models in my opinion. It also makes use of the 50% bow limit. I think something to bear in mind is that your bows won't always be able to play defensive like in LOME so adding watchers in your bow group gives you counter attacking potential. |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
done some recalculating and think this is right (annyone with fallen realms book able to confirm would be appreciated) Golden King 6 Merchant Guard 5 Haradrim warriors + spear (swapped for bow when needed} 198 pts Harad chieftain + spear + bow 4 Haradrim warriors + spear 6 Harad warriors + bow + karna 136 pts Harad chieftain + spear + bow 6 Harad warriors + bow + karna 6 Watchers of karna + bow 165 pts Total 500 pts (36 models) alt (better ?) Golden King 6 Merchant Guard 5 Haradrim warriors + spear (swapped for bow when needed} 198 pts Harad chieftain + spear 4 Merchant Guard 6 Harad warriors + bow + karna 134 pts Harad chieftain + spear + bow 6 Harad warriors + bow + karna 6 Watchers of karna + bow 165 pts Total 497 |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
that is looking alot more healthy. Now it is time to try it out. Give it a few games before you really restructure or rethink. I'd be happy fielding a similar force though as I said I'd still rather have watchers rather than harad karna dudes but I have money i set asside for metals maybe you don't. |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
Looks better now you have elites in the correct proportion although I would put Harad w/ spear and bow behing the Guards, though you should write Abrakhan Guard not Merchant Guard. |
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| Author: | Phoenix1986 [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
The Abrakhan Guard cant be supported - they only ignore the -1 for 2-handed weapons |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
If they use their hand weapons instead of their two-handed ones they can be supported 
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| Author: | Phoenix1986 [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
cant argue there - but would you really bother. i would have thought given that formation Watchers would be better |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
sooo this would be better? Golden King 5 Watchers of karna + bow 5 Haradrim warriors + spear 200 pts Harad chieftain + spear + bow 5 Watchers of karna + bow 6 Harad warriors + spear 143 pts Harad chieftain + spear + bow 6 Harad warriors + spear 6 Watchers of karna + bow 153 pts Total 496 pts |
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| Author: | MeatBoy1994 [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
sacreddutchman wrote: sooo this would be better?
Golden King 5 Watchers of karna + bow 5 Haradrim warriors + spear 200 pts Harad chieftain + spear + bow 5 Watchers of karna + bow 6 Harad warriors + spear 143 pts This list is better, with the King and the Merchant guard you can pack a proper punch!! Harad chieftain + spear + bow 6 Harad warriors + spear 6 Watchers of karna + bow 153 pts Total 496 pts |
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
Trade the 6th haradrim spearman for a Watcher with bow. That'll get you to 499. It's legal because you round up, not down, for the bow limit. |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 500 pt Harad army |
Abrakhan Guard are worth it without using their 2-handers, they should be 9pts for those, Abrakhan with Harad spear/bow support is the way to go 50% bows. Of course a multitude of 2 attack Watchers is equally viable, but not necesarily always better. |
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