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Author:  King of men [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:08 pm ]
Post subject:  750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
Hi guys :)

What do you think about these two armies? Which one do you prefer? I have to choose. Tips to improve the armies will clearly well accepted. Thank you


FIRST ONE


Prince Imrahil on horse with spear
8 Knights of Dol Amroth on horse with spear

Eomer of the Pelennor fields on horse
6 Sons of Eorl
1 Rider of Rohan on horse

Erkenbrand on horse
2 Red shields of the westfold on horse
5 Outriders on horse

750 points - 25 models


SECOND ONE


Imrahil on horse with spear
6 Knights of Dol Amroth on horse with spear

Eorl the young on horse
5 Sons of Eorl
1 Royal guard on horse
2 Riders of Rohan on horse

Eomer of the Pelennor fields on horse
2 Riders of rohan
1 Royal guard on horse with javelin
5 Outriders on horse

750 points - 25 models
Author:  Lord Hurin [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
What exactly do the Outriders do now? I know they've lost their Fate point. Are they just Riders with no shields and a better shoot value?
Author:  cereal_theif [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
Get rid of the outriders, get normal rohan make them red shields with bows too. F4 is the win
Author:  Valamir [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
I don't remember what particularly was special about Eomer of the Pelennor (besides the bump in the stat line), but I would lean towards the use of the first list- and I would agree with cereal_theif's suggestion- with this type of force, you want to go for winning the fight and flattening enemies as fast as you can, in order to even the odds quicker.
Author:  King of men [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
cereal_theif wrote:
Get rid of the outriders, get normal rohan make them red shields with bows too. F4 is the win


I don't want to descrease the number of models, on my opinion 25 models is the minimum. This is the reason why I don't turn outriders in red shields. Maybe I will turn them in normal riders of rohan with bow for have higher defense..but new outriders have a nice little rule that sometimes could be usefull :)

I'm afraid of the large amount of might that now with the new rules all the armies of Evil. I play only 9 might. It is for that reason that I wrote a list with Eorl the young ,for his special rule that can give me some gratis heroic moves. The list with Erkenbrand, on the other side, plays more Dol Amroth and Sons of Eorl and the army has high courage for the special new rule of Erkenbrand.

It's a hard choice...
Author:  Valamir [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
Ah. I know not the rule- so keep the outriders, go with the first army, and make sure that you are trampling them under your hooves. Fear not the heroic combat!
Author:  King of men [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
King of men wrote:
cereal_theif wrote:
Get rid of the outriders, get normal rohan make them red shields with bows too. F4 is the win


I don't want to descrease the number of models, on my opinion 25 models is the minimum. This is the reason why I don't turn outriders in red shields. Maybe I will turn them in normal riders of rohan with bow for have higher defense..but new outriders have a nice little rule that sometimes could be usefull :)

I'm afraid of the large amount of might that now have, with the new rules, all the armies of Evil. I play only 9 might. It is for that reason that I wrote a list with Eorl the young ,for his special rule that can give me some gratis heroic moves. The list with Erkenbrand, on the other side, plays more Dol Amroth and Sons of Eorl and the army has high courage for the special new rule of Erkenbrand.

It's a hard choice...
Author:  Valamir [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
The rule of Eorl can be nice, but he can't compete in hitting capability with Eomer (I think...). Do remember that the might of an orc captain is not as much of an issue when it is on the end of Imrahil's lance.
Author:  King of men [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
Valamir wrote:
The rule of Eorl can be nice, but he can't compete in hitting capability with Eomer (I think...). Do remember that the might of an orc captain is not as much of an issue when it is on the end of Imrahil's lance.


Eorl is in place of Erkenbrand in the list I wrote in the first post. Would you choose the first or the second list?
Author:  Galanur [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
I just got somthin that would be nasty if the enemy throw something at you
Trolls.
1 Mordor trol in close combat can overmatch most of all your melee units(just Imrahil might be a good challenge)

But still, I prefer the list 1, you got plenty mighty heroes a every 1 got excelent body guards :)
Author:  Valamir [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
I'm sorry, I did not notice that Eomer was in the second list. I would definitely, DEFINITELY take it over the first- largely because of Eorl's superiority to Erkenbrand. Galanur makes a good point regarding the trolls, but it is worthy of note that you will get much, much farther with this list if you ignore the trolls and kill everything around it. Which one can do. Usually.
Author:  Elessar Telcontar [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
I am no expert on Rohan, but I think I will prefer the first list. Don't KoDA have lances?
Author:  King of men [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
Galanur wrote:
I just got somthin that would be nasty if the enemy throw something at you
Trolls.
1 Mordor trol in close combat can overmatch most of all your melee units(just Imrahil might be a good challenge)

But still, I prefer the list 1, you got plenty mighty heroes a every 1 got excelent body guards :)


Mordor Trolls are the last of my thoughts, I don't fear them. I fear lists with two ringwraiths, my worst enemies.

@Elven Lord: Yes they have lances
Author:  Galanur [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
NAzguls are pretty fearsome oponent to screw up your heroes, but probably you should "sacrifice" one of your heroes to keep the nazguls busy while the other flank around and do the job(1 nazgul can´t target with magic more than 1 guy :P)

But when you see one of this guys, what they usually have around them?
Author:  King of men [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
Galanur wrote:
NAzguls are pretty fearsome oponent to screw up your heroes, but probably you should "sacrifice" one of your heroes to keep the nazguls busy while the other flank around and do the job(1 nazgul can´t target with magic more than 1 guy :P)

But when you see one of this guys, what they usually have around them?


In this moment I can find them in all kind of armies: mordor, harad, esterlings, angmar..but even moria..!

I can manage one Nazgul, the problem is when facing a list with two of them. This one is the list I fear the most..

You a had a good point on sacrificing one of the two "big" heroes: Imrahil and Eomer of the Pelennor. I think about it for several times but I reached the conclusion that they are quite indispensable, to make opponent worry, to face Nazguls and to hardly hit the opponent and to quickly balance the inferiority of models. Imrahil with lance on horse and the new Eomer with his special rule together have an impressive desctructive potential. I decide to play absolutely with these two guys.
My choice on the trio of heroes are: Imrahil-Eomer-Erkenbrand or Imrahil-Eomer-Eorl.
Erkenbrand and Eorl were chosen for their special really usefull rules and because of their Might 3 value (important for an entire army of riders)
Author:  Valamir [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
When dealing with Nazgul it is important to remember that they are not an issue if they are on the end of someone's lance, or if they just got run over by somebody. The best way to take them out is with a heroic combat, but failing that, keep the army charging- if your heroes only manage to do that and you can win the fights, then you stand a solid chance of keeping the heroes alive just because your normal cavalry is running rampant over the enemy.
Author:  King of men [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
I'm going to play in a official tournament on Sunday and this is the list I will probably play (points limit is 750):

Imrahil
8 Knights of Dol Amroth

Eomer, rider of the Pelennor
6 Sons of Eorl
1 Rider of ROhan

Erkenbrand
2 Red shields of the Westfold
2 Outiriders
3 Riders of Rohan with bow

25 models (all mounted) - 750 pt.



What do you think about this list? and what do you think about the division in bands?

Thank you so much guys 8)
Author:  cereal_theif [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
illegal...
you have 9 without bow, 5 with bow.

But once you ammend that it looks good.
Author:  King of men [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
cereal_theif wrote:
illegal...
you have 9 without bow, 5 with bow.

But once you ammend that it looks good.


You are wrong. The rules says that the bow count in excess, so if I have 14 models of rohan in total I can give bow up to 5 of them :)
Author:  cereal_theif [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 750 pt Rohan+Dol Amroth cavalry
ahhhh, sweet stuff. In that case looks pretty good
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