Harad army

Bane of Kings · **Joined:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:39 am **Posts:** 60

me and a few buddys at my local GW are starting up lord of the rings SBG. So i want to do harad; games are going to be 500 points need list help and i have a limted bujet.
shadow lord 120
12 haradim warriors 6 spears 6 bows 84
war mumak of harad with tusk weapons 295

i am playing strict 500 and only harad aside from the nazgul
(also there are 12 warriors and a chief on the mumak)total of 22 bodies + mumak

Bane of Kings · **Joined:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:39 am **Posts:** 60

i may also use the betrayer (costs the same) please inform me of their rules before Friday the 3rd

fritskuhntm · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:23 am

will you be playing with lome or with the new battle companies?
Either way, you should get a box of corsairs: they're the "front row guys" for harad.
I also suggest not using the mumak until you get into higher point battles.
Maybe some harad raiders too? and as a hero suladan? (and if playing with warbands some captains too)

PippinMeatShield · **Joined:** Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:10 am **Posts:** 51

I think you need more troops. Maybe drop the Mumak and use the cash to buy a box of Harad warriors or two or/and some harad riders?
also the betrayer's makes ur poison attacks a bit more reliable.

fritskuhntm · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:25 am

naw... dont take the betrayer, shadow lord is the best

PippinMeatShield · **Joined:** Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:10 am **Posts:** 51

I think all wraiths (cept Khamul) are good at certain situations though some situations are more common such as the Shadow Lord.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:15 am

fritskuhntm wrote:

will you be playing with lome or with the new battle companies?

They are NOT battle companies. Warbands and battle companies are completeky different.

fritskuhntm · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:37 pm

yeah, I meant warbands

Bane of Kings · **Joined:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:39 am **Posts:** 60

well the thing about the mumak is almost nothing in 500 points can bring it down, except of course the all troll warband also GW uses this as the harad starter army check thier page.
I REALLY DON'T WANT TO USE CORSAIRS MORE HARAD FOCUS NOT UMBAR!!!
i also must use a mumak because i love it though the rest and the mumaks abilities are completely flexible.
i also have nothing against using easterlings plan on only using new rules.
remember 1 hero 0-12 warriors.

This Haradrim force may initially look small, but don't let appearances fool you, it packs an extremely powerful punch. Any rival 500-point force will struggle to bring down the Mûmak, but let's not forget they also have 12 Haradrim Warriors and a Nazgûl to contend with as well. The Betrayer allows the Haradrim Warriors and any other models with a poisoned weapon close by to re-roll To Wound rolls on a score of 1 or 2. But as well as bolstering the abilities of the warbands around him, the Betrayer model is itself a formidable force on the tabletop, causing Terror and has the Bane of Kings special rule - allowing you to re-roll wounding strikes on any enemy models.(taken from the getting started with fallen realms under this list)

Grey Company · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:34 pm

Please let me know the result of your game -- I do hope you play with the Mumak. I have 2 of them, but have not been confident enough to use them in a game. Hopefully soon though. I would be interested to find out the best strategy for winning with a Mumak. Thank you in advance for any insight.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:35 pm

You know the 12 Warriors on the Mumak aren't free, and you have to pay the pts for them?

Bane of Kings · **Joined:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:39 am **Posts:** 60

yeah thats the 295 points according to the gw getting started page here is the link.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/conte ... eMode=true
because their mumak has all it's riders in the howdah.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:49 pm

Firstly, that only has 8 rders not 12.

Secondly, I believe GW messed up on that one because (unless they reduced it) a Mumak with no riders or upgrades costs 275pts, and each rider costs either 6 or 7pts, tusk weapons costs 25pts

Bane of Kings · **Joined:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:39 am **Posts:** 60

so you think the guys at GW are idiots and F*cked up again.
so no riders, though they are redoing the rules.
and do all the riders even fit up there?

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:57 pm

Unless they redo the rules to make 8 of the riders come free, and reduce the Mumak's overall costan Tusk Weapons upgrade, then yes they have messed up. Which is just like them. When LoME forst came out, they printed some LoME legal lists, several of whch were actually wrong, including the Easterling one.

Bane of Kings · **Joined:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:39 am **Posts:** 60

i really think they should all have one person doing the work for everything or learn to read their own damn rules

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:06 pm

I have to agree with you, Gw don't seem too organised. Another time, on ther WotR tactics, they recommend using a tactic which their FAQ said was illegal. Any way, you might want to wait for the new book, on the extremely unlikely offchance they have changed. However, you could somehow alter your list?

Bane of Kings · **Joined:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:39 am **Posts:** 60

yeah i'm heading to my local GW on friday and saturday the release date for the new LOTR SBG so i'll check everything out their for sometimes they really make up the rules when their writing their posts.

Bane of Kings · **Joined:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:39 am **Posts:** 60

oh a can anyone tell me if kataphracts will be any good
also what's you're fav nazgul

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:14 pm

Kataphrakst already have rules in SBG, the metal Kataphrakts were released with the old SBG Shadow in the East sourcebook, and yes they are ok.

And my fave Wraith is the Tainted.

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