numbers are too low. Drop the captain, banner or some elites like the valtwardens.
personally when I platy with dwarfs; I always take damrod and some womt with spears. but that's not necessary
hope this help a bit
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| Author: | Harald85 [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Hey guys, I am currently building a 600 pts army list for the Strategy Battle Game for a Lord of the Rings Tournament. Here is my first draft: -Durin -Dwarf captain with shield -4 Khazad guard -3 Iron Guard -10 Dwarf warriors with hand weapon and shield -8 Dwarf warriors with bow -4 Dwarf warriors with two-hand weapon -1 Dwarf warrior with banner -2 Vault Warden teams (ie: 2 shields and two pikes) Total: 596 pts What do you think? Comments and critics welcome! |
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| Author: | fritskuhntm [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
numbers are too low. Drop the captain, banner or some elites like the valtwardens. personally when I platy with dwarfs; I always take damrod and some womt with spears. but that's not necessary hope this help a bit
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| Author: | MattTheLegoman [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Depending on terrain, Vault Wardens may be your key. |
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| Author: | Harald85 [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Thanks for the advice. However, I am trying to get a themed force so I would like to avoid WoMT and Allies like that. What kind of troop numbers should I aim for in your opinion? |
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| Author: | MeatBoy1994 [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Maybe you should remove Durin; replace him with Gimli (If you can in a Khazad dum army), he's definiteley more effective than Durin... |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
drop the captain n get iron guard. 2 attacks is what you need |
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| Author: | Valamir [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Actually, if you are looking for theme and you do not wish for allies, I think you are going in the right direction with theme. I would keep Durin, drop the regular dwarves with 2-handed weapons, drop the captain, go with more iron guard and Khazad-Guard, and orient it around being a 'Durin's Guard' theme. |
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| Author: | General Elessar [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Harald85 wrote: What kind of troop numbers should I aim for in your opinion? At 600pts with Dwarves, I'd aim for around fifty models. I understand why Durin is appealing, he's one of the most powerful Heroes in the game. However, there are more competitive options. You could get Gimli or Balin instead, or even both of them. |
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| Author: | lordgoober [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
The problem with that is that in the various dwarf army lists in the Khazad Dum book, the only one with the Vault Warden teams is the list with the only named characters being Durin and Mardin. The VWTs aren't available in any of the other lists. |
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| Author: | Valamir [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Which is why I would remain with Durin (because he can take care of himself) and get as many of the non-hero dwarves who can also take care of themselves. For those who have not suffered under the pain of fighting massed Iron Guard, with a smattering of Khazad to take arrows, it is an army that even Isengard has trouble with, and the only thing that is going to break it fairly quickly would be a dragon. But a mess of throwing weapons followed by a charge of screaming dwarves with lots of attacks results in pain and suffering. For whomever is receiving it. |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Keep Durin, and swap captain n 2 handed for iron n kazad. You won't run away so easily with Kazad and they wont laugh when you have 2 S4 attacks with a throwing weaping coming before hand too. |
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
No matter what, trade the 4 with 2HW for 4 with shields. Then take out the captain and bring in 3 more Iron Guards, 1 more Khazad and one more with a shield. That'll be 600pts with 40 troops, with quite a few elites, along with 8 str 3 shots and 6 guys with throwing weapons. |
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| Author: | ncea [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Harald85 wrote: -2 Vault Warden teams (ie: 2 shields and two pikes) btw the Foe Spear vault warden guy has a spear not a pike. But you should so put in my more vault wardens there so beast. |
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| Author: | Constantine [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Have you considered Floi the Loremaster? |
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| Author: | theavenger001 [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Two lists, one with Durin, and one with Gimli: Gimli shieldbearer 23 shield 16 bow 9 khazad 50 units, 4 might, lots of bows, and the possibility of lots of free herioc combats. (shieldbearer) Or: Durin 24 shield 15 bow 8 khazad |
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
The Shieldbearer has 2 might, so the first list has 5 might. |
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| Author: | Constantine [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Nope just checked the rules for him this noon, he only has one might. |
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 600 pts Khazad Dum Army (SBG) |
Oh, sorry, I was thinking Kings Champion. |
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