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| Author: | Telchar [ Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | WOTR Dwarf Army (1500 pts) |
After I've finished Isengard (just a few weeks left now) I plan on starting a Dwarf Army. Leader: Dain-200 Hero: Gimli-175 Common: Dwarf Warriors-4 coy, shields-160 Dwarf Warriors-4 coy, shields-160 Dwarf Warriors-4 coy, 2HW-160 Dwarf Warriors-4 coy, 2HW-160 Rare: Khazad Guard Kinband-3 coy, Shieldbearer-175 Iron Guard Kinband-3 coy, Shieldbearer-175 Vault Warden Kinband-2 coy-140 (I know they suck, but they look awesome, and I don't know anyone fielding Ruin casters) The only thing that worries me about it is the lack of anything ranged of any kind. |
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| Author: | WayUnderTheMountain [ Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: WOTR Dwarf Army (1500 pts) |
A list like this, your tactics are at the mercy of your opponent. If they have a decent amount of range, particularly crossbows or seige weapons, they'll just settle in on their side and wait for you to trudge across to them. In which case, you're going to need to try and rush them with AtD or Heroic Moves, which your army is lacking with only 2 Epics and 2 Shield Bearers. If they are combat-heavy, then your deployment is going to be crucial because Dwarves are not fast so you need to be in position by end of Turn One. Vault Wardens are not great but they make a decent anvil against cavalry and infantry (not so Monsters). Use dwarf units in tandem (ex: Shield Dwarves locking the enemy in place while 2HW dwarves flank) or the enemy will just grind you down. Hope this helps a little. |
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| Author: | Telchar [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: WOTR Dwarf Army (1500 pts) |
Thank you. Any suggestions on how to make it more gunline-resistant? |
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| Author: | Leonardis [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: WOTR Dwarf Army (1500 pts) |
Hi, I have played quite a few games with dwarves, I would always take archers. The advice above is correct, when I play against dwarves I sit back and shoot them, they lumber across the field and take heavy casualties... When I have used them I have 2-3 comps and use these effectively to target monsters and flanking troops - IMO they are a must! Check out my blog, which has some dwarf battle reports where they haven't done so well... Good luck! |
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| Author: | WayUnderTheMountain [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: WOTR Dwarf Army (1500 pts) |
Telchar wrote: Any suggestions on how to make it more gunline-resistant? You could: a) Take some "gunline" troops of your own though not Dwarf archers (such a stupidly short range and only S2 at 9") but Dwarf Rangers (Yes, I normally hate Dwarf Rangers but in WotR they are the only useful Dwarf ranged troops. Also take a look at the Dwarf Ballistae though they're only good against large formations. b) Take more Captains or Shield Bearers so you can Heroic Move/At the Double your way across the board and only give them a round or two of shooting. c) Ally troops with decent range in like Minas Tirith Archers or Gondor Rangers to help in the Shooting Phase. |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: WOTR Dwarf Army (1500 pts) |
if you wanted to think competively, you might as well swap all the Iron Guards for more Khazad Guards since they're better, but its up to you. |
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| Author: | Telchar [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: WOTR Dwarf Army (1500 pts) |
@ Wayunderthemountain. I took option A), and here's the new list: Leader: Gimli - 175 Hero: Balin - 100 Battlehost: Drárs Wardens - 50 Drars Rangers (or whatever, the legendary)- 3 coy - 210 Dwarf Ranger Kinband - 3 coy, bows - 120 Dwarf Ranger Kinband - 3 coy, bows - 120 Iron Guard Kinband - 3 coy - 150 ------------------------------------------------------ Common: Dwarf Warrior Kinband - 4 coy, shields - 160 Dwarf Warrior Kinband - 3 coy, (either shields or THW, can't decide) - 160 Rare: Vault Warden Kinband - 2 coy -140 Khazad Guard Kinband - 3 coy - 150 The battlehost allows me to move full distance and fire, as well as auto-passing ATD, which IMO justifies having to take two formations that are just good, not great. The 2nd Warrior Kinband, I can't decide whether to make them shields or 2HW. The 2HW can really dish out the pain for a not very high cost, but I feel I need a more solid center, ie. more shields. @ Gothmog. I'm not playing competive, I love the Iron Guard models and fluff, and they are a requirement for the Battlehost, so I won't swap them out. |
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| Author: | WayUnderTheMountain [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: WOTR Dwarf Army (1500 pts) |
Take shields. The Iron Guard and Khazad Guard will act as your striking units while the regular warriors hold the line. |
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| Author: | Telchar [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: WOTR Dwarf Army (1500 pts) |
That's settled then. Thanks for all the good advice. |
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