Very wel build army... Maybe if you just removed soem bows and got orc with spears right now?( Just an idea
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Right now i have sorted a list for 500pts: 2 Uruk Captains with Heavy Armour and Shield. 14 Uruk Scouts with Orc Bow. 14 Uruk Hai with Shield. 6 Uruk Scouts with Shield. 10 Orc Warriors with Spear. Total: 500 dead on. Now i plan to take that to 750pts and was wondering what really i could add to it, seeing as i am somewhat limited on allies, plus not too keen on having many metal models in my army. I was considering converting a few spare Engineers into Crossbowmen, say 4-6 but really that is all i have planned. Possibly a Troll or a Shaman and an extra Captain too. Any suggestions though, obviously keeping strict LoME? 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
xbows aren't metal anymore, neither are berzerkers. IMHO you need some pikes, uruks seem naked without them. At 750 points you could also add Saruman and Grima, pikes, some xbows and berzerkers, and that would probably be enough. If you don't want a strong magic user, ally in a budget wraith and get a blister of Vrasku and Ugluk to help your xbows and scouts. |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Well i don't like Resin either, plus i prefer conversions, however the Wraith and the Uruk Scout leaders sound like a good idea. It is a no to Saruman however as really i don't like blowing that many points on a magic user, a budget Wraith seems much better to me. Finally while i like Pikes i find that Orcs with spears, cowering behind a staunch frontline of Uruks with shields works better, plus with them being nearly half the points of a pike armed Uruk they can be fielded en masse. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | SuicidalMarsbar [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Swap a captain for a shaman, swap the other captain for vrasku (or don't, it's your choice), ally in a wraith and buy more troops (preferably with pike). |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Still not keen on the Shaman as that lack of Will and the low Defence compared to the higher Defence and more Will of the Wraith wins it for me. Might add Vrasku, Ugluk and Lurtz, plus maybe a Captain for the White Hand side of things. As for the troops still want to get more spear Orcs in, better than Uruks with pike i find. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
In the case of Shamans, Orcs & Goblins need them more than Uruks or Easterlings, but Fury is still very potent. |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
True, but i have never been a magic user really, as much as it does have some good effects it does often come with a weak caster. Only a few arrows and it is all over where as the average Captain can wade through S2 bows with that D7 HA and Shield combo, more likely to put his 2 Might to use than 4 Will for a spell that can be removed easily. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Fury isn't as necessary for Uruks as their courage is higher. But you need something or orcs and goblins, or they run pretty quickly. I've played several games as elves and broken first, then watched as the enemy melts away. |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Well i plan to add in Ferals and Berzerkers so combine a White Hand with Raiders list to make my 750pts, that way Fury won't really be as effective for them as the chance of failing a C7 (or even C5) are quite rare. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Right have now got a proper, all Uruk list for 500pts Raiders: Captain with Bow: 55 6 Ferals: 72 3 Scouts with Orc Bows: 27 White Hand: Captain with Heavy Armour and Shield: 60 14 Uruks with Shield: 140 10 Scouts with Orc Bows: 90 6 Scouts with Shields: 54 Total: 498 Now to drag it up to 750 i plan to add: 2 Shamans 1 Uruk with Shield 1 Uruk with Banner 10 Orc Warriors with Spear 4 Scouts with Orc Bows Any ideas, or anything i should really drop. As a final aside not keen on fielding pikes in this force so no suggestions for that please. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | Hilbert [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Very wel build army... Maybe if you just removed soem bows and got orc with spears right now?( Just an idea )
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Well the 500 force i want to be 100% Uruk, the 750 and possibly 1000 i am not too fussed about. Really i find Orcs with Spears better than Uruk Pikes, more of them, easier to back people up and i don't want to use a boring sit in a block and pike support all day with my Uruks.  'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | DaDuffer [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
I'd drop one of the shamans and the banner and use the points to get a budget wraith and some more Uruks. An interesting list though and I like the idea. |
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Right, ok the drag up from 500 to 750 looks like this now: Shaman: 50 12 Orc Warriors with Spear: 72 8 Orc Warriors with Shield: 48 6 Scouts with Orc Bow: 54 3 Scouts with Shield: 27 Well it is 251pts but as i have a spare 2pts from 500 it isn't an issue. Now i just hope i can win my eBay bid for the Uruk Scouts  'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | Hilbert [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Seems well added... But ,maybe you can remvoe all the orcs with shields for uruk-hai
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Well i was looking at chucking in a few more models to get the numbers filled, thought that while i enjoy elite forces would be good to have a little balance to the force at 750. But i see what you mean, might also try and get some crossbows in there. 'FireKnife' |
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| Author: | Hilbert [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Crossbows are more expensive but more strong...
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| Author: | FireKnife [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 500pts, what to add to make it 750pts |
Well true, i plan to make them from Uruk Engineers with Empire Crossbows i have lying around, much prefer that to making them from those stupid RoughCast ones. 'FireKnife' |
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