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Ok so at 1000pts you can have up to 75 models, which should not be a problem, most harad armies can reach that at 700pts. At 1000 points you need to include a ringwraith, choose whichever one you want, if your a beginner then the undying is a good choice as he is very difficult to kill. As for your harad hero the gold king is probably your best option, closely followed by a Hasharin/Suladan. Anyway here is my suggestion:

Gold king
Mumakil with mahud chieftan
69 wariors of harad
named ringwraith on fell beast

this equals about 999 points, it only has 7 might (you generally want 1 might per 100points) 73 models,23 bows and it contains the killer sap will+golden king combo (use the wraith to sap the enemy leaders will and drain his courage, then once his force is broken use the golden king to make him fail his courage test thus killing the model)

Author:	Dream27 [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:00 am ]
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So I'm thinking of building a largish probably about 1000 points Harad army and was looking for advice. It will be very themed but hopefully still competitive. Anyway I was wondering whether you guys could give me some advice or possibly a draft of what a good force this size should include Models I Would Like In My Army Suladan Harad Chiefs Haradirim Raiders Serpent Raiders Harad Spearmen Harad Bowmen Watchers Of Karna Possibly A Mumakil and/or A Ringwraith Possible Allies Easterlings Black Numerons (Probably in the form of Morgul Knights) Mahud Any advice at all would be appreciated Thanks

Author:	SuicidalMarsbar [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:13 am ]
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Ok so at 1000pts you can have up to 75 models, which should not be a problem, most harad armies can reach that at 700pts. At 1000 points you need to include a ringwraith, choose whichever one you want, if your a beginner then the undying is a good choice as he is very difficult to kill. As for your harad hero the gold king is probably your best option, closely followed by a Hasharin/Suladan. Anyway here is my suggestion: Gold king Mumakil with mahud chieftan 69 wariors of harad named ringwraith on fell beast this equals about 999 points, it only has 7 might (you generally want 1 might per 100points) 73 models,23 bows and it contains the killer sap will+golden king combo (use the wraith to sap the enemy leaders will and drain their courage, then once the enemy force is broken use the golden king to make him fail his courage and flee)

Author:	GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:17 am ]
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Haradrim Raiders are cheap and effective. Abrakhan Guard are very good. I would recommemd you use some of both.

Author:	Hilbert [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:20 am ]
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If you use both them you will have a strong cavalry as well as infatry... Also Abrakham guard special rule will help you infict many casualities.

Author:	SuicidalMarsbar [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:21 am ]
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Half trolls are pretty nifty, just be aware of their courage

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Author:	Hilbert [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:22 am ]
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So if you have a high courage hero enar them may they stay but sometimes heroes run themselves...

Author:	Hilbert [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:01 pm ]
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Oh yeah I forgot that

Author:	Dream27 [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:14 pm ]
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SuicidalMarsbar wrote: Ok so at 1000pts you can have up to 75 models, which should not be a problem, most harad armies can reach that at 700pts. At 1000 points you need to include a ringwraith, choose whichever one you want, if your a beginner then the undying is a good choice as he is very difficult to kill. As for your harad hero the gold king is probably your best option, closely followed by a Hasharin/Suladan. Anyway here is my suggestion: Gold king Mumakil with mahud chieftan 69 wariors of harad named ringwraith on fell beast this equals about 999 points, it only has 7 might (you generally want 1 might per 100points) 73 models,23 bows and it contains the killer sap will+golden king combo (use the wraith to sap the enemy leaders will and drain his courage, then once his force is broken use the golden king to make him fail his courage test thus killing the model) I was thinking of something like this but I want a more varied force rather then just spamming Harad troops. I was thinking of something like Golden King 2x Harad Cheif on Horse 5-10 Harad Raiders 5-10 Serpent Raiders 6x Watchers Of Karna 6x Abrakan Guard A ton of harad troops Allied with 5-10 Morgul Knights and there leader Using these models given how would I make a competitive force? Add a The Shadow Lord and stand back? Add some Hasharian and use them with the Watchers to annilare anything? Get more Morgul Knights and a Ringwraith? Thanks

Author:	SuicidalMarsbar [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:14 am ]
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As cool as they are hasharins don't tend to do well competitively, they draw in fights against a standard wood elf I wouldn't say you need 2 harad chieftans on horse, 1will be enough. Maybe ally in shelob, she is the same points as a hasharin and is much better at assassinating enemy heroes than a hasharin. As for the shadlow lord, he is great but when it comes to the ringwraiths i'd say its more about preference than anything else, afterall they can all cast the same spells and provide the same courage penalty to the enemy/have an excellent stand fast for your army. If you are going to max out on troops then shadow lord probably isn't necessary, not all of your models will be able to get into the initial fighting (because there are too many of your models) so it does not matter if you lose a few of them on the way to the fight. I personally like the Undying the most, i love having 20 fate. Dark marshall can essentially give your troops another attack so he is very useful for getting an advantage in combat. If you are going to choose shelob as your assassin then the tainted on horseback could work well as a double team with her, his -1 penalty to enemy courage means shelob will not be surrounded as easily, and should someone try to run away the tainteds rule stops them from bringing anyone with them. Im not sure on the points values of all the troops you listed but for heroes i suggest this selection: Golden king Harad taskmaster harad chieftan on horseback with lance shelob the tainted

Author:	GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:00 pm ]
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harad chieftains doont get lances they get warspears and why shelob. if yoou want the tainted keep him near your high courage troops, otherwise combine your choices with some of what suicidalmarsbar said.

Author:	SuicidalMarsbar [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:09 pm ]
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GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: harad chieftains doont get lances they get warspears and why shelob. if yoou want the tainted keep him near your high courage troops, otherwise combine your choices with some of what suicidalmarsbar said. Shelob has a higher F/SD/W than a hasharin, is faster, has more attacks if it wins a fight while on the charge, and is better suited to assassinating heroes (especially wizards due to a high will rating)

Author:	Hilbert [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:43 pm ]
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Shelob really is a killing machine... But she went to Harad? I have to create a small story... So after Sam defeated her she went south[End of the story}

Author:	Hilbert [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:13 am ]
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Oh is he secretly alive

Author:	whafrog [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:17 pm ]
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SuicidalMarsbar wrote: Shelob gets 4 attacks on the knockdown ... Stop, your wording is n00b-confusing. She doesn't get 4 attacks. She gets 2 attacks, and each attack gets 2 dice to wound. Very different, because the most she can kill is 2 models. Ignoring the reroll for a bit, if she's facing two warriors with 1 wound each, if she rolls one attack and gets a 6 and 5, and the other attack gets a 3 and 3, she only kills one model.

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Author:	Lord Hurin [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:12 pm ]
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SuicidalMarsbar wrote: THEMATICS ARE FOR THE WEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOME IS WRITTEN BY TOLKIEN!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this a joke? If so, I don't get it. If not, then get a grip.

Author:	Hilbert [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:13 pm ]
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Actually shelob was eating orcs, so she would eat men too...