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Author:  Karvag [ Tue May 18, 2010 6:41 am ]
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here is my uruk-hai army...

uruk-hai captain with heavy armour and shild x1

uruk-hai warrior with pike x10

uruk-hai warrior with shild x7

uruk-hai warrior with crossbow x10

berserkers x4
Author:  General Elessar [ Tue May 18, 2010 2:08 pm ]
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Very interesting Karvag, how succesful was that army?

I've been fiddling with my Dwarf army a little, here's the latest version:

Gimli
Dwarf Warrior with Banner
4 Iron Guard
8 Dwarf Warriors with shield
8 Dwarf Warriors with two-handed weapon
4 Dwarf Warriors with shortbow
4 Dwarf Rangers with Dwarf longbow
Author:  spuds4ever [ Tue May 18, 2010 6:33 pm ]
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Are you also involved in the school league tournament then Karvag? We're going to Nottingham for the finals in July (yay!).

Here's my army (well, my original)

Erestor
16 high elves with shields
5 high elves with shield and spear
10 high elves with elf bows

I'm considering swapping the high elf spear men's shields and Erestor for Gildor but I don't know whether this is a good idea or not.
Author:  The_Dragon_of_Moria [ Tue May 18, 2010 8:55 pm ]
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Why does nobody tell me these things. (Rolls eyes at my local GW staff) :sad:

I really wanted to play it this year but I got too caught up in studying for my exams, playing a little 40k and painting my Dragon. Recently I have sat some of my exams (only one more left and it's 10 days away :-D) so this would have been a fun break from official examinations. And some real compitition would have beeen nice, I've gotten bored of beating everyone at my local GW, with only 24 of my Goblins, Durburz and a Captain.

Those lists look pretty strong, so good luck everyone.

When is the Final? Oh, and What is the points, 700?

P.S. Sorry about the small vent, I'm a bit fed up now since my little bro is no longer interested in LotR SBG, the only decent competiton I've had for the last couple of months.
Author:  General Elessar [ Wed May 19, 2010 3:04 pm ]
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The National Final, in Warhammer World (which we're going to :D ), is on the 30th of June.

The points total is 400, but there's lots of other restrictions as well.
Author:  The_Dragon_of_Moria [ Wed May 19, 2010 7:38 pm ]
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Is their restrictions against using a Dragon? I can field a Moria force with a captain and 2 goblins for 50 pts and have an allied fully upgrade dragon to make my 400 pts. 3 model minimum accounted for with and a massive monster which can kill droves of enemies. (LoME restrictions upheld). Or I can field a partialy upgraded dragon with 12 goblins and a captain.
Author:  General Elessar [ Thu May 20, 2010 4:49 pm ]
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You can't take a Dragon, for several reasons. Here are the restrictions:

1) Armies can have no more than 400 points worth of models following all the rules for army selection in Legions of Middle Earth.

2) Each force must consist of at least eight models, and cannot include more than forty-five models.

3) Each force must have a Hero, if your Hero is a named character you may only have the single Hero. You may not take another Hero in your force.

4) If you do not take a named Hero you may take up to two Heroes. Neither of these may be named.

5) No more than 150 points may be spent on any Hero.

6) No more than a third (33%) of each forces models may be armed with bows or crossbows.

7) Evil Forces cannot include Gollum or Grima Wormtongue.

8) Good Forces cannot include Tom Bombadil or Goldberry.

9) Heroes such as Galadriel, that have special rules related to a specific location always count as "beyond the borders of their realm" if used.

10) Whenever a rule is repeated in several publications use The Lord of The Rings Strategy Battle Game rules (The One Ring edition).
Author:  The_Dragon_of_Moria [ Thu May 20, 2010 4:58 pm ]
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Okay I see.

Still I could field 42 goblin warriors, 2 captains and my Troll in 400 point army. The Swarm and Smash Tactics. hehehe.
Author:  General Elessar [ Thu May 20, 2010 5:08 pm ]
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The_Dragon_of_Moria wrote:
Still I could field 42 goblin warriors, 2 captains and my Troll in 400 point army. The Swarm and Smash Tactics. hehehe.


Hmm... I might try that...
Author:  The_Dragon_of_Moria [ Thu May 20, 2010 5:36 pm ]
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General Elessar wrote:
The_Dragon_of_Moria wrote:
Still I could field 42 goblin warriors, 2 captains and my Troll in 400 point army. The Swarm and Smash Tactics. hehehe.


Hmm... I might try that...


It's actually quite effective. Everyone always seems to shoot at the big scary Troll, neatly forgeting about the 12 goblin archers, the swordsmen and the spearmen led by a couple of Goblin Heroes. It never seems to be the Troll which kills the enemy heroes it ends up being the 6-12 goblins surrounding them led by a Goblin captain.
Author:  General Elessar [ Fri May 21, 2010 1:56 pm ]
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The_Dragon_of_Moria wrote:

Still I could field 42 goblin warriors, 2 captains and my Troll in 400 point army. The Swarm and Smash Tactics. hehehe.


As that armies only 370pts, I'd swap a Goblin for a Bat Swarm.
Author:  Mouth-of-Sauron [ Fri May 21, 2010 2:11 pm ]
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is a regular Nazgyl named hero? :lol:

e.g could you take an Black Guard Captain and a basic Nazgyl?
Author:  General Elessar [ Fri May 21, 2010 3:23 pm ]
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I don't know whether or not a regular Ringwraith counts as a named Hero. I once asked one of the staff at a GW store, he thought they don't count as named Heroes but he wasn't sure.
Author:  The_Dragon_of_Moria [ Fri May 21, 2010 4:09 pm ]
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General Elessar wrote:
The_Dragon_of_Moria wrote:

Still I could field 42 goblin warriors, 2 captains and my Troll in 400 point army. The Swarm and Smash Tactics. hehehe.


As that armies only 370pts, I'd swap a Goblin for a Bat Swarm.


I'd probably do the same come to think of it...

I don't normaly play 400 point armies, I normaly play 500 or 700 point game so I use bat swarms, 4 Giant Spiders, wargs and a warg chieften as allies to my Goblins.
Author:  Karvag [ Sun May 23, 2010 6:13 pm ]
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that sounds a big army, but i have never considered having a moria

army cos the goblins are only 2 fight, my school (i am

the captain of the team) got into the final cos there was no one there to beat us :-D :D

but i still think we would have won the regionals (my team has two high elf armies, a easterling army and my uruk-hai army)

here is my new one, please comment:

1x uruk-hai captain with heavy armour and shild

8x warriors with crossbow

10x warrior with shild

9x warrior with pike

4x berserkers

comes to 398 pts
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i was wondering if i should have a balista, what do u think ???
Author:  General Elessar [ Tue May 25, 2010 1:39 pm ]
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We only had to play against one other team to get to the finals, we beat them but it ended up with both teams going to the final. :)

There's not much difference between those two Uruk-hai lists Karvag, so I don't know which one to recommend. I definetly wouldn't take a Ballista, it costs too many points and Uruk-hai already cost a lot.
Author:  Karvag [ Tue May 25, 2010 3:26 pm ]
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that is a very good point, what do u think about a raiders army instead
Author:  General Elessar [ Tue May 25, 2010 5:30 pm ]
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Uruk-hai Raiders do have slightly better Heroes, such as Lurtz and Ugluk, but I'd still take the Legions of the White Hand as they higher defence, spears/pikes, and crossbows.
Author:  hobbitsrule22 [ Tue May 25, 2010 5:45 pm ]
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dwarfs rule i thrashed karvag (i recently joined his club).i cant play in tournament this year though. i anihalated his and had 14 dwarfs to fight on with.
my khazad dum army:
dwarf captain +shield
8 dwarf warriors with hand axes
8 dwarf warriors with shields
10 dwarf rangers with bows
3 khazad guard
1 vault wardon team
i banner carrior

i then made another
my erebor army
king dain
8 dwarf rangers with 2 handed axes.
8 dwarf rangers with hand axes
8 dwarf warrior bowmen
2 iron guard
dwarf ballista

which do you think i should use? :rofl:
Author:  General Elessar [ Wed May 26, 2010 2:31 pm ]
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I prefer the first one.
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