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Author: | Cave Dragon [ Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Historical unit counts |
OK, so do we know how many guys good and evil had a battles? Could be fun for people to use when playing the game, specifically for... -Defense of Dale and the Lonely Mountain against the Easterlings Good Bain Evil -Uruk-Hai against the defenders of Helms Deep Good Legolas Aragorn Hama Gimli Theoden Haldir xWarriors of Rohan xCaptains of Rohan xElven Captains xElf warriors Relief force Gandalf the white Eomer Evil 10,000 Uruk-Hai, probably 1/50 berserkers, with a couple bomb crews. Minas Tirith Good Gamdalf the white Perigrin Took Beregond Denethor Relief Force Theoden Eomer Hama Grey Company Halbred Aragorn King of the Dead Still updating, will add more. X stands for unknown, please add numbers that you know, I will do some digging. |
Author: | Baron [ Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Historical unit counts |
Some things I can Say about that: First of all you seem to use the movies as reference. The books give only limited information about numbers but the films even less, so the books should probably be used. So I will not only give details you don't already know but also corrections. Helms Deep: Eomer is among the defenders. The relief force is lead by Gandalf and Erkenbrand and consists of infantry, probably levies and dismounted survivors of the second battle at the fords of Isen. And of course Legolas was the only elf around there. The attacking army was indeed 10000 strong, but did consist of Uruk-Hai, normal orcs and Dunlendings. The siege of Minas Tirith: The defenders of Minas Tirith: From Gondors fiefdoms came: Forlong with 200 well-armoured men with battleaxes Dervorin with 300 footmen from the Ringló-vale Duinhir with his sons Duilin and Derufin and 500 archers from the Blackrootvale Prince Golasgil with his small personal retinue and a large number of ill-equiped armed civilians from Anfalas Some leaderless highlanders from Lamedon About 100 fishermen from the mounds of the Anduin Hirluin the fair with 300 warriors wearing green from Pinnath Gelin Prince Imrahil with a group of fully armoured knights on grey horses and 700 tall infantrymen from Dol Amroth Alltogether less then 3000 Relief force: From Rohan: 6000 riders of Rohan, all mounted, including Theoden as Commander in chief, Eomer (first marshall of the Riddermark), Grimbold (second marshall of the Riddermark) and Elfhelm (third marshall of the Riddermark) as the most important other commanders From the fiefdoms: the grey company, led by Aragorn, containing Legolas, Gimli, Elladan, Elrohir, Halbarad, around 30 rangers in total (all on foot) Angbor the fearless with a large number of men from Lamedon (probably dismounted due to travel by ship but origanaly mounted) No army of the dead! They were released after capturing the black fleet. The battle of Dale Commanders of the defenders: Dain II. Ironfoot, king under the mountain His son Thorin IV. Stonehelm King Brand of Dale His son Bard II. After the deaths of Dain and Brand their sons took over command and retreated into the mountain until the ring was destroyed and the resolve of the besiegers wavered. Lots of numbers are of course unknown and I just summarized what I remembered our what I could check reasonably fast, as I was just referencing the first chapter of the Return of the King for other reasons. |
Author: | Cave Dragon [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Historical unit counts |
Baron wrote: Some things I can Say about that: First of all you seem to use the movies as reference. The books give only limited information about numbers but the films even less, so the books should probably be used. So I will not only give details you don't already know but also corrections. Helms Deep: Eomer is among the defenders. The relief force is lead by Gandalf and Erkenbrand and consists of infantry, probably levies and dismounted survivors of the second battle at the fords of Isen. And of course Legolas was the only elf around there. The attacking army was indeed 10000 strong, but did consist of Uruk-Hai, normal orcs and Dunlendings. The siege of Minas Tirith: The defenders of Minas Tirith: From Gondors fiefdoms came: Forlong with 200 well-armoured men with battleaxes Dervorin with 300 footmen from the Ringló-vale Duinhir with his sons Duilin and Derufin and 500 archers from the Blackrootvale Prince Golasgil with his small personal retinue and a large number of ill-equiped armed civilians from Anfalas Some leaderless highlanders from Lamedon About 100 fishermen from the mounds of the Anduin Hirluin the fair with 300 warriors wearing green from Pinnath Gelin Prince Imrahil with a group of fully armoured knights on grey horses and 700 tall infantrymen from Dol Amroth Alltogether less then 3000 Relief force: From Rohan: 6000 riders of Rohan, all mounted, including Theoden as Commander in chief, Eomer (first marshall of the Riddermark), Grimbold (second marshall of the Riddermark) and Elfhelm (third marshall of the Riddermark) as the most important other commanders From the fiefdoms: the grey company, led by Aragorn, containing Legolas, Gimli, Elladan, Elrohir, Halbarad, around 30 rangers in total (all on foot) Angbor the fearless with a large number of men from Lamedon (probably dismounted due to travel by ship but origanaly mounted) No army of the dead! They were released after capturing the black fleet. The battle of Dale Commanders of the defenders: Dain II. Ironfoot, king under the mountain His son Thorin IV. Stonehelm King Brand of Dale His son Bard II. After the deaths of Dain and Brand their sons took over command and retreated into the mountain until the ring was destroyed and the resolve of the besiegers wavered. Lots of numbers are of course unknown and I just summarized what I remembered our what I could check reasonably fast, as I was just referencing the first chapter of the Return of the King for other reasons. Many thanks! |
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