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 Forum: Official Rules Questions   Topic: Spear support and fight value

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:04 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 5058


The article is just an article, not an official ruling. There's nothing in the rules for the Whirl attack that allows the whirler to use the Fight value of spear support. There is also a recent errata for the game, and nothing is mentioned about the whirl attack. So the ruling on p84 stands.

 Forum: Beginners   Topic: The New Rule/Profile books - What do you think?

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:42 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 4901


I'm pretty happy with the rules and profile changes, so far they seem incremental and very balanced. I like the subtle changes, like Gondor's Shieldwall rule, and other tweaks to Rohan and Isengard and a few others. My group is fairly aged, and we joke that this will likely be the last set of skirmi...

 Forum: Beginners   Topic: Army selection help! Shire or armies allied with denizens?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:11 pm 

Replies: 12
Views: 4714


Nope. What does that mean? It's not like you can't make the alliance if you want. You don't get the army bonus, but you might get other synergies, and honestly, the loss of Standfast between armies for the "worst"alliance is a pretty minor penalty. I mean, taking Eagles with Gondor means ...

 Forum: Beginners   Topic: Army selection help! Shire or armies allied with denizens?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:24 pm 

Replies: 12
Views: 4714


Angmar is worth a look, Burdhur is a great captain, you can be a bit more risky with with Heroic Combats because his Strength will be more likely to kill than other heroes. You can take the Wild Warg chief...not a great hero, but useful. And Gulhavar is very effective, just be sure to keep his wound...

 Forum: News & Rumours   Topic: Nov 24 pre-orders

 Post subject: Re: Nov 24 pre-orders
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:26 am 

Replies: 45
Views: 17290


I don't want to see Numenorean cavalry. I prefer things that we get in the story. Its possible there were some mounted Numenoreans, but I've never seen them as a horse people. I guess it comes down to the question of game design vs narrative. There is mention in the books of their "steel bows&...

 Forum: Beginners   Topic: Using fight values in combats with multiple models

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:29 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 3110


The new rules seem to have changed a bit for spear support. If the generic elf was providing spear support, they only add a single attack at Fight 5, so you'd roll 3 attacks at Fight 6, and 1 attack at Fight 5. Edit: now I'm comparing the Hobbit rules with the new rules...they seem the same. So I gu...

 Forum: Official Rules Questions   Topic: Shieldwall after a fight?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:05 am 

Replies: 22
Views: 6844


I think you're still "base to base" if you're prone, so the +1D would still apply. The model takes up more space though, so a second line would have to back up a bit.

 Forum: Official Rules Questions   Topic: Shieldwall after a fight?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:35 am 

Replies: 22
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Interesting thoughts. It was Gondor vs Uruk hai Scouts, so the D7 made a big difference, trapped or not (I suffered no trapped casualties anyway). If they can't be trapped, it makes for an unbelievably solid core out of F3 fighters that can move anywhere they want. I don't think you'd want to bother...

 Forum: Official Rules Questions   Topic: Shieldwall after a fight?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:09 pm 

Replies: 22
Views: 6844


So Ingold is the bomb when it comes to leveraging the Shieldwall rule: if he or any other Gondor Warrior within 3" loses a fight, they don't back up, the winner backs up. That keeps all your Shieldwall models in formation and they retain their +1D. But that brought up another rule question: if ...

 Forum: Beginners   Topic: Tier-1 Army?

 Post subject: Re: Tier-1 Army?
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:58 pm 

Replies: 10
Views: 4298


Most of the armies are playable, and Elves are certainly in the top tier. But you have to play to their tactical/strategic strengths, the strengths of the individual models has little to do with it. I want to start collecting an army that will not yield to opponents. That's more about how you play t...

 Forum: News & Rumours   Topic: Nov 24 pre-orders

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:01 pm 

Replies: 45
Views: 17290


Only in the UK, not Canada :( But there's hope, I really like the new Theoden model, and he's now essential for Rohan.

 Forum: Army Help   Topic: Are Rangers viable?

 Post subject: Re: Are Rangers viable?
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:43 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 3416


Thanks for the real world insight. We've usually just played to the death, though I'm trying to get people into scenarios.

 Forum: Army Help   Topic: Are Rangers viable?

 Post subject: Are Rangers viable?
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:27 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 3416


I just noticed that the new Rangers army has no warriors. I suppose at smaller point levels like 500 you could max out on the minor heroes...that gives you 16-20 models, which is 16-20 shots, 16-20 Might, and they all have 2A. I'd probably go with the 16 Rangers to get D5, and give them all spears. ...

 Forum: Official Rules Questions   Topic: Shieldwall after a fight?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:07 pm 

Replies: 22
Views: 6844


I would like to see how the warriors of Minis Tirith preform with a three warband line of, say 18 by 2, against things like Morranon orcs or Easterlings with the same fight value. On this...I'm not sure on my boards I could get that wide a string of troops. I use quite a bit of terrain...it's a ski...

 Forum: Official Rules Questions   Topic: Shieldwall after a fight?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:12 pm 

Replies: 22
Views: 6844


Also, a model do not have to back directly away when a it loose a fight. Backing away is done "in a direction chosen by the controlling player." (pg. 44 ME:SBG Rule Book). Hmmm, now that does make a difference, thanks! Also, that Ingold profile and model look great! I'm guessing that is t...

 Forum: Official Rules Questions   Topic: Shieldwall after a fight?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:52 pm 

Replies: 22
Views: 6844


If there is a line, it doesn't last long, especially at smaller point values. In my case, a 400 point game. A bunch of Uruk hai scouts with the Mauhur upgrade threw that line into chaos pretty quickly because the line of push-back has to be directly away from the attacker, and they can easily flank....

 Forum: Official Rules Questions   Topic: Shieldwall after a fight?

 Post subject: Shieldwall after a fight?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:43 pm 

Replies: 22
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Minas Tirith warriors have a new Shieldwall special rule: if they are in base contact with two other models that have shields, their Def is +1. I thought this was great, it seemed like a nice way to represent their Roman-like discipline*...that is, until the first fight: the only time Def matters is...

 Forum: News & Rumours   Topic: New rulebook incoming?

 Post subject: Re: New rulebook incoming?
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:47 pm 

Replies: 8
Views: 5858


Thanks, I saw that recent post, quite excited about it.

And thanks ja33 for the kind words. I've only played 2 games in the past couple weeks, after several years absent, so my SBG knowledge is probably quite outdated. I expect I shall lurk and learn for a while.

 Forum: News & Rumours   Topic: New rulebook incoming?

 Post subject: Re: New rulebook incoming?
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:33 am 

Replies: 8
Views: 5858


Any word on this? My interest in playing the game has been rekindled as some friends have decided to jump back on board. But they only have the old rules. imagine my dismay when I couldn't find the Hobbit rules online...!

 Forum: Beginners   Topic: Consider me newb...

 Post subject: Re: Consider me newb...
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:23 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 1986


Thanks all. I'll probably head to my GW soon then to pick up the magazine. Appreciate the welcome-backs, and hope you're all doing well :) Unfortunately since my son grew up and moved away my chances for games has waned and so has my interest. Plus, I'm just not as enamoured with the Hobbit movies a...
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